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re: Ranking The RBs In The Saban Era

Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:31 am to
Posted by Joka2kold
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:31 am to
I could have but I got kind a lazy on looking it up but I will say this...the LSU defense in 2011 was better than all those defenses combine in 2015. Henry's o line was good as well and they dominated those defenses.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:26 am to
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the LSU defense in 2011 was better than all those defenses combine in 2015

They were better but that’s not how it works. Richardson didn’t face that defense 7 times. He faced them twice and in 5 other instances he didn’t face top 25 rushing defenses.

It’s like saying 2019 AU had one of the greatest defenses in the history of CFB since they were the only team to hold one of the best offenses ever to under 25 points. But that wouldn’t make any sense since AU only played them once.



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Henry's o line was good as well

It wasn’t as good though. That 2011 OL was a less experienced version of that crazy good 2012 OL. If Henry and Coker weren’t such tough guys, they would’ve both been tackled for loss way more times playing behind that 2015 OL.

There’s nothing that supports your argument that Richardson was much better then either Henry or even Ingram besides your highly subjective “eye test”.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 6:31 am
Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:12 am to
I think the top 2 are easily Ingram and Henry. Henry was a beast and only got stronger as the game and the season went on. Mark was just about always getting positive yardage. I do not think Mark very seldom got tackled for a loss.

Trent when he was on was unstoppable but the other two in my opinion were just so consistent as starters.
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:49 am to
Eddie Lacy had the potential to be great if he could've just managed his weight and had better discipline. He was a real weapon in the NFL for a season or two.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:52 am to
Yeah that 2015 OL was pretty mediocre. Anyone remembering them as anything more than that is focusing on Henry's stats and conveniently ignoring all of the busted blocking assignments that got him hit in the backfield or forced him to bounce outside. Hell, look at one of his most iconic plays. The one where he banished Shilique Calhoun to the shadow realm with a stiff arm. That was a busted play that he turned into a TD because he's a fricking freakbeast. Henry is the best RB in program history and it isn't even remotely close.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 8:55 am
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:40 am to
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Yeah that 2015 OL was pretty mediocre.

I thought the left side of the 2015 line (CamRob & Pierschbacher), along with Kelly at center, was strong...the right side, not so much. Dominic Jackson in particular at RT struggled against the better teams; Clemson owned him in the CFPCG and in that play you mentioned with Calhoun in the Cotton Bowl, that was on his side as well...
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:48 am to
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Tbh the T Richardson bust story is just bizarre, and hard to explain



Na, pretty easy to explain.

-Knee injury that he never let heal before he got a bazillion carries as an NFL rookie.

-Leaches/bad influences that caused him to lose focus.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:25 am to
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Her's my best guess; while he was at Bama we were running a power blocking scheme.

I heard that mentioned before and it would make sense that he showed at least some potential with the Browns his rookie year.

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that no one was going to bother giving him a 3rd or 4th chance,

He actually did. The Raiders signed him on and he looked equally as bad. That’s where the memes of him being blind came from. He had a few plays where he missed wide open running lane and instead ran into his own teammates. After they cut him, the Ravens signed him on but he failed their physical. He wasn’t fat, he was still pretty jacked. May it was the knee injury the other poster mentioned. He seemed so slow and stiff compared to his college days.
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:31 am to
Trent relied on pure strength In college. He was so strong and low to the ground and you combine that with Bama’s OL and he dominates.

Once his strength was evened out in the pros and he had to actually use his head it just didn’t work out.
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1853 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:27 pm to
Why do you think Alvin Kamara is that good because of what he did at Tennessee, I agree he is a good back but he didn't do squat here
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
1063 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:41 pm to
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Trent relied on pure strength In college. He was so strong and low to the ground and you combine that with Bama’s OL and he dominates.

Once his strength was evened out in the pros and he had to actually use his head it just didn’t work out.

Bingo
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:43 pm to
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Why do you think Alvin Kamara is that good because of what he did at Tennessee, I agree he is a good back but he didn't do squat here

Because he never got on the field.

He's still the second best back to wear Crimson in the Saban era.
Unfortunate how it worked out.
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:03 pm to
Kamara is also in one of the most fortunate systems for his abilities. The Saints were such a threat with Brees through the air, that you are bound to get some easy rushing yards in shotgun formations. He also catches the ball out of the backfield well. Kamara wasn’t good in our system then. We excelled with big strong backs.

Najee would be amazing in the Saints system as well.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 11:10 pm to
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2. Alvin Kamara


Even based off his career at Tennessee and the NFL so far, this is still too high.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:43 am to
Bo Jackson was on wjox yesterday and they asked him who is the best running back in the NFL. He didnt hesitate and said D Henry is the best. Jackson also said he likes the way Henry carries himself when not on the football field.
Posted by CrimsonClover
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 10:23 am to
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Bo Jackson was on wjox yesterday and they asked him who is the best running back in the NFL. He didnt hesitate and said D Henry is the best

I don't even think this is debatable
Posted by qman91
Member since Jan 2021
1853 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:32 pm to
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He's still the second best back to wear Crimson in the Saban era.
Unfortunate how it worked out.
Yes it sucks how everything turned out but it worked out for everyone in the end. Personally, I think the best back was Derrick Henry and the second greatest was Najee.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Member since Apr 2015
22525 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:57 pm to
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Even based off his career at Tennessee and the NFL so far, this is still too high.

Tennessee yes, but mostly because Butch was a dumbass. But the NFL? I hope Najee turns out better but Kamara is absolutely one of the best RBs in the NFL.
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