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re: Off Topic: Republican Bama fans - would you vote for Tubberville in the Senate primary?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:28 pm to GenesChin
Posted on 4/24/19 at 12:28 pm to GenesChin
I just don’t have a lot of respect for Tuberville. It has nothing to do with Auburn, Fear the Thumb, or anything related to that. If it’s between him and Jones (or Roy Moore in a runoff), of course I’ll vote for him but I think we can do better. Byrne would be a really solid senator for us. It’s a shame Bentley got the nod over him in 2010 for Governor.
Never underestimate Alabama voters though. We can make some really dumb choices. Watch us nominate Roy Moore again or even Jim Ziegler.
Never underestimate Alabama voters though. We can make some really dumb choices. Watch us nominate Roy Moore again or even Jim Ziegler.
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Posted on 4/24/19 at 1:48 pm to FairhopeTider
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Byrne would be a really solid senator for us. It’s a shame Bentley got the nod over him in 2010 for Governor.
Completely agree. I'm virtually certain it will be Byrne. The info about the disinformation campaigns has rehabilitated Moore somewhat, but he's still damaged goods that had a hard time cracking the 40% mark against name opponents BEFORE the last election. If Luther hadn't taken the appointment from Bentley and had instead run against Moore as a the sitting AG, he'd have won in a cakewalk.
Byrne will get the nomination and then beat Jones by 20+ points.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 2:10 pm to Lordofwrath88
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How many Bama Republicans vote for a Democratic Nick Saban ticket.
Depends. Is he a Jim Webb Democrat or a Dud Jones Democrat? Who is he running against?
Posted on 4/24/19 at 4:12 pm to imjustafatkid
I have to ask (as I don’t live in Alabama any more) but why is everyone so turned off by Doug Jones?
Yes he’s a Dem but he’s CONSIDERABLY to the right of me and even most mainstream Democrats. He’s more in the Joe Manchin/ Heidi Heidcamp wing.
What has he done that’s so terrible, other than the crime of having a D next to his name.
Yes he’s a Dem but he’s CONSIDERABLY to the right of me and even most mainstream Democrats. He’s more in the Joe Manchin/ Heidi Heidcamp wing.
What has he done that’s so terrible, other than the crime of having a D next to his name.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 4:14 pm to Carolina Tide
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other than the crime of having a D next to his name.
That's pretty much it. That and he hasn't voted in lock-step with Republicans. Imagine that.
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:47 pm to Carolina Tide
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What has he done that’s so terrible, other than the crime of having a D next to his name.
Kavanaugh.
Jones is a former prosecutor. As such, he knew full good and well that those accusations lacked a single shred of credibility and it didn’t matter one bit. I could have understood if he’d said he would vote no because of judicial philosophy but he took the cowards way out. Not long afterwards, it came out that he was the beneficiary of an organized “Russia styled” disinformation campaign run by US (D) operatives and aimed at Moore. Not a look that he will be able to survive.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 4/24/19 at 10:59 pm to Carolina Tide
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Yes he’s a Dem but he’s CONSIDERABLY to the right of me and even most mainstream Democrats. He’s more in the Joe Manchin/ Heidi Heidcamp wing.
He's not conservative about anything that matters. Not a single major issue.
This post was edited on 4/24/19 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 4/25/19 at 4:53 am to JustGetItRight
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Kavanaugh
Dude lost his mind when put under pressure. Never should have been confirmed.
Posted on 4/25/19 at 7:53 am to JustGetItRight
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Jones is a former prosecutor. As such, he knew full good and well that those accusations lacked a single shred of credibility and it didn’t matter one bit. I could have understood if he’d said he would vote no because of judicial philosophy
It's not really worth debating, but his no vote was more than just the allegations made by Ford. Even before she came forward with her story he was expressing concern over the lack of documents the White House was turning over that related to his work under the Bush administration.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:32 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Heard a few interviews with Tuberville yesterday. Wasn’t impressed at all. If he was running for a House seat or something small, I wouldn’t care. Really hope he doesn’t become our Senator. Would be a disaster.
The guy isn’t even registered to vote in Alabama.
The guy isn’t even registered to vote in Alabama.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:26 pm to The Spleen
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Even before she came forward with her story he was expressing concern over the lack of documents the White House was turning over that related to his work under the Bush administration.
The best lies are when liberals distort history through semantics. Notice how this liar distorts facts with the bolded portion above. The BUSH administration was holding back certain documents related to internal communications (read: nothing of substance), but this liar phrases it to look like the current administration was withholding something important. This talking point actually makes Doug Jones look even worse on the Kavanaugh issue, not better, because he was also contributing to the spreading of this lie. He was clearly never going to vote yes on that nomination and was raising fake concerned to stall until he had what he thought would be political cover.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:03 pm to imjustafatkid
Tread carefully when calling someone a liar. From The Wall Street Journal.
Trump Administration Won't Release Kavanaugh White House Documents
They did eventually release around 40,000 pages the night before the confirmation hearings began.
The ploy by the Democrats was political as they were hoping to run out the clock on his confirmation before the new Supreme Court session began. But the current administration absolutely involved themselves in what documents were made available to the Senate Judiciary committee, and Jones absolutely cited that as one of the reasons for his No vote.
Trump Administration Won't Release Kavanaugh White House Documents
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The Trump administration is withholding some 100,000 pages from Brett Kavanaugh’s records as a lawyer in the George W. Bush White House, something Democrats say clouds the Supreme Court nominee’s confirmation hearings that begin Tuesday.
They did eventually release around 40,000 pages the night before the confirmation hearings began.
The ploy by the Democrats was political as they were hoping to run out the clock on his confirmation before the new Supreme Court session began. But the current administration absolutely involved themselves in what documents were made available to the Senate Judiciary committee, and Jones absolutely cited that as one of the reasons for his No vote.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:40 pm to The Spleen
Now you linked to an article behind a paywall that cuts off right at the point that disproves your statement.
CBS News article from two days before your linked article
The Trump administration could have overridden the Bush lawyers, but the Kavanaugh hearing made it clear Bush's people accommodated literally any requests made concerning those documents.
The Dems were lying about those documents just like they lied about everything to do with Kavanaugh, the media carried their water for them, and you either bought it or are out-right lying about it.
CBS News article from two days before your linked article
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George W. Bush's attorney Bill Burck told the panel it had essentially completed its work compiling documents, according to a letter obtained by The Associated Press. Bush directed them to err "on the side of transparency and disclosure, and we believe we have done so."
The Trump administration could have overridden the Bush lawyers, but the Kavanaugh hearing made it clear Bush's people accommodated literally any requests made concerning those documents.
The Dems were lying about those documents just like they lied about everything to do with Kavanaugh, the media carried their water for them, and you either bought it or are out-right lying about it.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:41 am to imjustafatkid
I linked the WSJ because if I linked another mainstream media outlet, you'd have claimed fake news. There are several outlets that reported the same thing the WSJ did - that the Trump administration had some input on what documents were made available to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and they withheld several thousand pages of those documents. Yes, the National Archives handled the original document requests, and Bush's attorney(who is also a Kavanaugh associate) oversaw that.
Nowhere in my post was there a lie, so GFY.
Nowhere in my post was there a lie, so GFY.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 9:16 am to GenesChin
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Roy Moore or Tommy Tubz What a world we live in where those two are serious candidates to represent this state & country of ours as senators.
You don’t technically HAVE to vote for them. Just a thought.
If Alabama actually goes ahead and votes in Moore (which I have this feeling that they will) then the state deserves all types of condemnation and ridicule that will come with it election a child pedophile into the senate.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:58 am to The Spleen
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Bush's attorney(who is also a Kavanaugh associate)
Another lie through misleading statement. It would be difficult to find anyone associated with the Bush White House who could not be considered a "Kavanaugh associate." He was part of the White House counsel and was the staff secretary for the White House. He was also on Ken Starr's team that was investigating Clinton in the 90s. The list of people who could not be described as "Kavanaugh associates" from that time is likely much smaller than the list of people who could.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:34 am to Carolina Tide
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Moore
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child pedophile
Link?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:34 am to imjustafatkid
Are you brain dead? You call it a lie, then go on to confirm what I said is not a lie.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:01 pm to The Spleen
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Roy Moore or Tommy Tubz What a world we live in where those two are serious candidates to represent this state & country of ours as senators.
The problem with asking "where are the real candidates" is in the people condemning anyone who decides to run.
Doug Jones was about as serious a Dem candidate that wasn't a far left loon yet he still gets no credit from the right for his bipartisanship
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:01 pm to The Spleen
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Are you brain dead? You call it a lie, then go on to confirm what I said is not a lie.
I think what I said is pretty clear. I laid it all out for you.
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