re: Multiple victims shot at Riverchase Galleria

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The solution to the problem cannot be solved with programs, etc as much as the fix happens with the family
Parents must teach their kids right from wrong, quit playing the victim, and quite blaming others.
It won’t be solved overnight, but I can assure you it will help in the long run

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Programs won't solve the problem but they are extremely important to communities where resources are lacking. Lessons of right and wrong and personal accountability don't work alone either. They work in tandem and many times where the parents or caregiver are not present the programs and the people who work in them provide those lessons. If a child comes home from school where parents are working poor or absent, and lacking structure, food or healthcare the odds of lessons of right and wrong taking hold or extremely small. I don't believe in leaving children behind as a society because their parents are absent or working poor. It leads to more often than not a repeat of the cycle of poverty, crime and abuse. If we can get the child on the right path then we may not see the issues and potential pitfalls and then that child as an adult can teach right from wrong and self accountability to their offspring.

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Do you think that the police heavy-handedness could be primarily in areas where there is a high degree of crime, and that it merely get's projected as being applied to the law abiding blacks nationwide?

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No.

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Unfortunately too many kids don't get enough square meals.

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That goes to a deeper situation where the families have been broken by regulations and legislation which encoraged minority incarcerations (decades ago).

Some have been rolled back and more are currently being rolled back but the reality is the damage has been done.

The damage to these communities wasn't done yesterday, it was a seed planted long ago. This bore a fruit of fatherless homes, poverty and a strong turn to crime due to lack of hope, lack of education, etc.

Poverty is what encourages criminality. It isn't about skin tone.

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You're right. It's not just black families that are separating. It's every race. We've forgotten how to put in hard work as a nation. Marriage is hard fricking work. Couples are getting divorced at an increasing rate and our youth is suffering the consequences.

My wife and I have taken in several children from broken homes, in a multitude of races, to help try to stabilize their lives. These kids just want some attention and someone to be on their side.

The problem in this country isn't racism. It's individualism. Our society used to prioritize unity. After 9/11 we were a beacon of hope for the world. Now we're expected to prioritize individuals over the betterment of our communities.

YStar, I've always liked and respected you as a poster. We agree on 99% of the stuff that gets discussed here. I'm not a racist and I know you aren't one either. It just bothers me that a beautiful little boy gets murdered in our state and his death is ignored by an organization telling us that he should matter due to the color of his skin.

He matters because he's a human being. He matters because he is a member of our community. He matters. Period.

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Bham Bammer

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He said the plague - ie widespread nature of it - is supposed. And the data - facts - support him.

Of course police brutality exists. It’s just not the widespread systematic issue that it’s being made to be right now.

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And it exists, though to a lesser extent, against whites. Of all the "police misconduct" clips I've seen recently, the two worst were vs whites. Arizona 2016 and a white WOMAN and her 3 year old child. They were beyond sickening.

A primary culprit is the police unions - I've heard multiple police chiefs in the last month say that they simply could not get rid of bad cops, as hard as they sometimes tried. And their fellow "good" cops will not support removal of obvious bad apples, thus they deserve to be lumped in with them to a great degree.

But many leaders on the left do not want whites and blacks being thought of together, they want to divide them, and the wicked news media perpetuates lies and misconceptions that support their agenda.

It is argued by a number of respected black men that the programs are actually the WORST thing we have and can do. The statistics show us that prior to Johnson's great society, black society was strong, healthy and vibrant with very low rates of fatherlessness. With Johnson's program, whites felt better for what had happened in slavery by giving (tax) monies to blacks. Seemed like a good idea, however, the consequences were devastating to the black community. Fatherlessness skyrocketed. Over 70% of black children are born into fatherless homes. From this followed the systemic poverty, the hopelessness, the crime and the incarcerations.

Any major dude would tell you that intact nuclear families are vital to the well-being of a society.

Now, what's the answer? Like it or not, it's what the Orange Man has been doing - getting politicians, grifters, bureaucrats, red-tape and other obstacles out of the way so that we have had the lowest rates of unemployment for minorities in a long time. Encouraging minorities to own and operate their own businesses. Giving dignity back to people.

It has been my experience that in today's world, people are bending over backwards to help blacks who want to to get ahead. I know I have. This is America. We love the story of a guy making it from poverty to stability.

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It has been my experience that in today's world, people are bending over backwards to help blacks who want to to get ahead. I know I have. This is America. We love the story of a guy making it from poverty to stability.

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I have to say this has not been my experience at all and the social programs in this country have been essential to my story as an American. My mother and her sisters where part of Job Core which led them to successful careers. My father who is a Vietnam Vet which in turn led to job assistance and much needed VA Healthcare. My brother as a vet was able to take advantage of job training. I am the product of Upward Bound and other community programs which has led to 2 college degrees. In my past I have worked with a number of programs that have assisted young people in poverty who have not had the home resources and support to avoid the streets and they became the first people in their families to attend college. Maybe I am bias because most of these things presented as not working transformed my life, family and community and I feel myself and the people I know are living counters to what you say, but we could be the exception. From my experience the Great Society programs in my community did not impact the 2 guardian home, it was drugs (abuse, distribution and the war on), unemployment, incarceration and lack of understanding of mental health issues.

Don't get me wrong things need to be done, talking about small business I liked (black entrepreneurship has been resurgent since the late 2000s but more is needed. Unfortunately these businesses are unlikely to be community based anymore.), but I continue to say these things work together it is not one or the other in my opinion. I hope your narrative is true of people bending over backwards to help kids but the ones I encounter don't usually tell that story.

Poor people shouldn't have kids if they can't afford them. Colorado has been succesful in decreasing unwanted births through birth control and education.

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How many billions of dollars have been wasted on social programs and such because they originated at the Federal level and are thus poorly targeted and largely unsuccessful? And how much has been diverted from those programs by corruption? In this day and age, we damn well can track and quantify what’s working and what isn’t through technology and better focus our efforts and resources for success. But so far, there’s been a lack of push for changes such as these. Makes you wonder how much of that is due to it cutting off someone’s gravy train.

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Greed, selfishness, lack of love for others. There you go, now we know why all commercial, social, political, and religious endeavors have been met by constant setbacks and failures to properly govern the masses at any time in their history. This country openly engaged in a systematic genocide of the Native American. From east to west, north to south, millions lost their lives because those "Red Devils" really weren't human like the rest of us. White America was not going to suffer the indignities of sharing land and socializing with such heathens. Talk about a group of people who should be suffering from a persecution complex. After they lost their families, culture, and land, they get the big consolation prize of being put on small reservations and starved and mistreated for another 100 years.

A different group of Americans but a pattern of what hate and prejudice look like when it's met with little mercy from the ruling majority. It's hard to run from the past when so much of it has played out with such feelings of superiority and animosity.

Any of this stuff sound and look familiar?