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Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:39 am to TideWarrior
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:39 am to TideWarrior
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I find this funny we are listening to him for coaching expertise.
Only if you're not very bright. He's as good as anyone in the media when it comes to this stuff. The fact he went to Auburn doesn't matter to anyone with a brain.
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:53 am to IB4bama
The thing is, Cubelic … who is very good … just described what DeBoer/Grubb actually WANT to do with their blocking especially in the running game. It’s never going to be a line up and go straight at your man scheme, it emphasizes lateral and perimeter blocking, although I agree with those who say if you can’t muscle up and get a tough yard when you must have it, you’re never going to be worth a crap.
They also want fast, athletic linemen, not mountains à la Saban.
It’s never going to produce a traditional SEC rushing attack. It’s going to have to be at least a competent rushing attack or it’s going to be a repeat of this year.
They also want fast, athletic linemen, not mountains à la Saban.
It’s never going to produce a traditional SEC rushing attack. It’s going to have to be at least a competent rushing attack or it’s going to be a repeat of this year.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:55 am to Marktastic86
According to 247 transfer info he’s smaller than Brailsford
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:56 am to RTRnFlorida
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:57 am to RTRnFlorida
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According to 247 transfer info he’s smaller than Brailsford
You're looking at his height and weight when he was a recruit in HS. Look at the Michigan roster from last year. He obviously put on weight (and shrunk) once he got to Michigan.
ETA: Coach Kap is 6'1''
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 8:59 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:07 am to Diego Ricardo
I think it’s fair to say all men add a few Inches to ourselves. I’d love to see him next to Pavia.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 9:55 am
Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:41 am to RTRnFlorida
You seem like a contrarian. So glad you're here
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 9:43 am to greyhulk
The dude could probably crush you like a bug.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:17 am to IB4bama
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He also said our linemen are getting turned towards the sidelines and there is no way to keep from getting over powered unless you keep your body pointed at the other player. Only time the body should turn is when pulling. If that’s true that part is a coaching issue.
They're getting turned around because they're getting beat to the point of contact then getting out muscled. We have a technique problem and a S&C problem.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:29 am to NWLA_Bama
And the only way that improves is if we get new S&C and OL coaches but I don’t know how likely that is to happen
We got to hope most of the starters are transfers I guess because maybe they learned better technique and fundamentals at their prior school
We got to hope most of the starters are transfers I guess because maybe they learned better technique and fundamentals at their prior school
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:00 pm to JIB
I did not know he went to AU nor care.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:11 pm to 1BamaRTR
Bama runs a different blocking set than some people are used to. Not always, but more than you may be used to.
In pass protection they use a lot of vertical sets instead of traditional sets. You'll see lots of straight up retreating from the tackles instead of the traditional 45 degree angle. Vertical sets are more passive but the benefit is you shouldn't get confused by stunts or twists since you don't engage as quickly.
In the run game they run a lot of pin and pull blocking. It's sort of like a gap scheme mixed w/ a zone scheme. If you're a lineman and you're covered you block inwards (pin) so he can't go to the RB. If you're uncovered you pull around the guy next to you who should be pinning and find a guy to block. The problems w/ pinning and pulling are that you are more susceptible to TFLs because if one guy doesn't do his job the defender is right there to blow up the play. If you run regular blocking scheme and miss a block it's usually no gain (roughly), not a big loss.
If you run a pin and pull scheme you have to have athletic linemen that communicate well.
I don't know if Coach Kaplovich ran that scheme in the past or not. He didn't do a good job. Bama seemed to have a lot of tackles for loss in the run game.
In pass protection they use a lot of vertical sets instead of traditional sets. You'll see lots of straight up retreating from the tackles instead of the traditional 45 degree angle. Vertical sets are more passive but the benefit is you shouldn't get confused by stunts or twists since you don't engage as quickly.
In the run game they run a lot of pin and pull blocking. It's sort of like a gap scheme mixed w/ a zone scheme. If you're a lineman and you're covered you block inwards (pin) so he can't go to the RB. If you're uncovered you pull around the guy next to you who should be pinning and find a guy to block. The problems w/ pinning and pulling are that you are more susceptible to TFLs because if one guy doesn't do his job the defender is right there to blow up the play. If you run regular blocking scheme and miss a block it's usually no gain (roughly), not a big loss.
If you run a pin and pull scheme you have to have athletic linemen that communicate well.
I don't know if Coach Kaplovich ran that scheme in the past or not. He didn't do a good job. Bama seemed to have a lot of tackles for loss in the run game.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:26 pm to JIB
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If you run a pin and pull scheme you have to have athletic linemen that communicate well.
I don't know if Coach Kaplovich ran that scheme in the past or not. He didn't do a good job. Bama seemed to have a lot of tackles for loss in the run game.
I think you've distilled down perfectly what I've been wondering. Is it scheme and coaching or personnel? Pin and pull is the bread and butter scheme, but you usually need lighter and more mobile guys to do it effectively and get to the point of contact more quickly. We know that Saban was shifting back towards a heavier personnel man/gap blocking scheme before he pulled the cord. Seems like we didn't have the right guys in the right place to accomplish this or was it simply a case of not being able to scheme up effectively in this offense with guys on the roster.
Honestly, I think it might have been a little of both. DeBoer's team have traditionally been able to run the ball when needed until he got here. The staff was handed a heavy personnel set that always looked awkward trying to move as the offense requires. But their inability to somehow fit a working scheme with the talent on hand is a real coaching miss. My guess is while it looks surprising on paper, we'll likely see a lot of lighter OL than we are used to just out of needs for the offense.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:49 pm to RTRnFlorida
….but no one has asked why do we buy such little chairs.
We should fire our Office Manager. I’m tired of these little legged chairs that can’t hold up these hogs. We used to be a proper program with large chairs.
We should fire our Office Manager. I’m tired of these little legged chairs that can’t hold up these hogs. We used to be a proper program with large chairs.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:00 pm to RolltidePA
When people wonder why Jaeden Roberts didn't play much it's because he's not built for the scheme. He's built to blow guys off the ball.
I think the scheme can work, but some of the guys aren't built for it and I'm not sure if Coach Kap is teaching it well.
I think the scheme can work, but some of the guys aren't built for it and I'm not sure if Coach Kap is teaching it well.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:36 pm to JIB
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If you run a pin and pull scheme you have to have athletic linemen that communicate well.
I agree with what you said which raises questions.
As a coach, yes, I have preferences in scheme and system and want to run them when I can, but for my teams to succeed, I have to adjust my system to the personnel I have on hand. Why not run what will be most effective until you have enough guys in place to run what you want. Running a Pin and Pull with our OL roster was ridiculous. For me, that makes the work our staff did even worse. Not only did we see a lack of development but they tried to force a scheme we couldn't run effectively.
Who actually installs and sets up the blocking scheme for each game and play? Is it the OL coach or OC? And for each individual play, doesn't the QB or someone on the OL call the blocking for that play based on what they see from the defense? I'd really like to know who was most responsible for the disaster we saw this season in blocking. It seemed that Ty ran a lot of audibles and I wasn't sure who set the blocking for each play even the audibles.
I just know we were very poor in technique development, set up, and execution.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 2:53 pm to DT55Forever1
I think it is going to be more important than ever to know what you are trying to accomplish on the field and sign prospects and transfers that fit the scheme. The teams that can be consistent in their execution by knowing who and what they are will have an edge over the teams trying to throw something together year to year.
So in abstract, if we're a pin and pull plus zone run team then we need to stick to that approach. However, I think we probably needed to move in a different direction along the OL sooner. The complication was with how the portal worked - when Saban retired and DeBoer was hired - putting teams in our situation in survival mode. Our staff valued holding the roster together as much as they could because it was being circled by vultures. Probably felt telling large swathes of the locker room they aren't a fit was going to cause more ill than good.
Was that the right decision? Results on the OL say no but look how Russaw hearing a position change was in order led to losing a solid piece of the DL in the process. You may lose more than one player by telling a hard truth about their future. Who knows how it goes when DeBoer and Kapilovic start telling these gap scheme linemen to kick rocks.
At this juncture, what they did to survive the transition is meaningless. The transition is over. It's DeBoer's program and he just had one of those postseason losses that tends to end a program's position on the national stage. How does he respond to a loss that felt like what LSU did to Miami in 2005? It took 20 years for Miami to recover from that one...
So in abstract, if we're a pin and pull plus zone run team then we need to stick to that approach. However, I think we probably needed to move in a different direction along the OL sooner. The complication was with how the portal worked - when Saban retired and DeBoer was hired - putting teams in our situation in survival mode. Our staff valued holding the roster together as much as they could because it was being circled by vultures. Probably felt telling large swathes of the locker room they aren't a fit was going to cause more ill than good.
Was that the right decision? Results on the OL say no but look how Russaw hearing a position change was in order led to losing a solid piece of the DL in the process. You may lose more than one player by telling a hard truth about their future. Who knows how it goes when DeBoer and Kapilovic start telling these gap scheme linemen to kick rocks.
At this juncture, what they did to survive the transition is meaningless. The transition is over. It's DeBoer's program and he just had one of those postseason losses that tends to end a program's position on the national stage. How does he respond to a loss that felt like what LSU did to Miami in 2005? It took 20 years for Miami to recover from that one...
Posted on 1/8/26 at 7:55 pm to FairhopeTider
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3-4 people on our offensive staff should be fired but it looks as though none of them will even be foisted.
ST, OL, S&C coaches need to take a hike. I’m losing hope, but maybe there will be some action after the portal window closes?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 8:15 pm to Diego Ricardo
Listed and what is. Is two different things. Thats 6 foot 1. 265.
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