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re: Kane is one hell of a coach

Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:14 am to
Posted by PowHound
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:14 am to
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people wanted Travaris Robinson, the quintessential Golding type coach. Great recruiter, average at best coach


To be fair Kirby Smart was among those people, but he certainly doesnt know more than the average rant poster.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:17 am to
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Wasn't dude a DC at Indiana?


For 2 years, and 1 of those years (his first) they were awful. The second year when their defense was good was 2020 and the B1G was a disaster that year due to COVID protocols.

I agree with Pandy that there are similarities between the hiring of Golding and Wommack, so I don't think it's unreasonable for fans to be skeptical.

A lot of people are excited about Wommack because he's never had this kind of talent on a roster, but it's not guaranteed that Alabama will continue to have a top 5 (or even top 10) roster from a talent standpoint and the gauntlet he'll face week in and week out in the SEC will be a completely different animal.

So, it may wind up being a great hire, but it's tough to know how things will shake out without at least seeing what kind of roster we'll have come September.
Posted by BrianFantana
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:28 am to
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To be fair Kirby Smart was among those people, but he certainly doesnt know more than the average rant poster.


TROB,you, and me are going to call the same amount of plays on defense for UGA this year... which is zero. Kirby/Schumann call the defense and thats not going to change. He got the title there with none of the responsibility. At Alabama he would have been the only guy calling the defense.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:30 am to
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be fair Kirby Smart was among those people, but he certainly doesnt know more than the average rant poster.
he wanted downs. He's gonna put Robinson in the corner with some crayons
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:33 am to
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For 2 years, and 1 of those years (his first) they were awful. The second year when their defense was good was 2020 and the B1G was a disaster that year due to COVID protocols.
they were 81st scoring d the year before he was the DC, improved to 45th year 1 and 19th year 2.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:39 am to
He’s young for a coordinator and he’s obviously not going to leave us for a lower level D1 HC job so that’s a positive for sure.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:45 am to
I see you trying
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:06 pm to
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they were 81st scoring d the year before he was the DC, improved to 45th year 1 and 19th year 2.


Again, I don't think we can take much from the year 2 ranking since the B1G had crazy COVID protocols and Indiana only played 8 games.

I also don't think rankings are a good way to measure things because offenses and defenses vary so much from year to year (as shown below).

With that all that said, there has been improvement in his Scoring Defense stats during his time at Indiana (as you mentioned) and at South Alabama (as shown below):

2020 (before Wommack): 27.3 points per game (53rd)
2021: 26.4 points per game (66th)
2022: 21.3 points per game (26th)
2023: 21.0 point per game (27th)

If his defenses can hold SEC offenses to 21 or fewer points, I think with DeBoer's offense, Alabama can win a lot of games. I really just want to see Wommack do it against SEC teams. Remember, Golding's UTSA's defense gave up 17 points a game (8th) in 2017 (his last year at UTSA). And in 2017, Bama gave up 11.9 points per game (1st). How times have changed

Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65139 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:01 pm to
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McElwain did a good job here as OC.



Indeed he did. Just goes to show you that a coach from the G5 can succeed at a P5 school.
Posted by Islander
Orange Beach, AL
Member since Aug 2012
177 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:53 pm to
Kane is not afraid to make changes if things don't go well. Fired half the assistants after the bowl game. Kept Major Applewhite though. Jags season was a big disappointment from his pre-season expectation.

This is a solid hire from an on field coaching standpoint. Only unknown is high level recruiting success. Confident from being around him at gatherings here, that he will do fine.
Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6512 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 4:33 pm to
Mean and strong like liquor,
mean and strong like fear.
Strong like the people from South Alabama
And mean like the people from here.
Take it from me, we ain't never gonna change
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