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Jalen Milroe Film Review
Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 9/3/24 at 3:02 pm
Aaron Murray is a dawg homer but does a great job with this.
Summary is Jalen has improved a lot in terms of going through progressions. He still struggles occasionally with footwork/fundamentals, pre determined some balls and refuses to use the check down.
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Summary is Jalen has improved a lot in terms of going through progressions. He still struggles occasionally with footwork/fundamentals, pre determined some balls and refuses to use the check down.
Milroe
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Posted on 9/3/24 at 5:51 pm to Doug Heffernan
Thanks for the film study.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:11 am to Doug Heffernan
Thanks. Looks like he did about like it seemed to the lay person- pretty good overall. It was a small sample size against an overmatched opponent, but fundamental things will carry over.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:25 am to Doug Heffernan
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He still struggles occasionally with footwork/fundamentals, pre determined some balls and refuses to use the check down.
I watched this video yesterday and this is the part that concerns me. This was an issue last year and it caused us problems in a number of games. I hope he was just going for broke against an overmatched opponent instead of this continuing to be a habit. It doesn't matter if he's our "best" QB if he refuses to use check downs when that's all the defense is giving him.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 8:26 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:27 am to imjustafatkid
Somebody should show him the Ray Lewis, Tom Brady check down video 
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. Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:31 am to Teague
I am not a football guru by any stretch, so take this with a grain of salt.
I think the progressions process was Jalen's biggest issue last year, and we're seeing some holdover from that. He's getting better, but he still takes too long to process the defense and anticipate the correct throw.
Granted, we've been spoiled by the procession of Tua/Mac/Bryce for several years -- guys who, either based on talent, long hours of film study, or both, seemed to know instinctively where to throw the ball within a second of receiving the snap. Jalen is getting better, but he's not to that level yet. It makes him appear indecisive.
I hope I never see him take another sack when the checkdown or outlet receiver is standing wide open.
I think the progressions process was Jalen's biggest issue last year, and we're seeing some holdover from that. He's getting better, but he still takes too long to process the defense and anticipate the correct throw.
Granted, we've been spoiled by the procession of Tua/Mac/Bryce for several years -- guys who, either based on talent, long hours of film study, or both, seemed to know instinctively where to throw the ball within a second of receiving the snap. Jalen is getting better, but he's not to that level yet. It makes him appear indecisive.
I hope I never see him take another sack when the checkdown or outlet receiver is standing wide open.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:53 am to Sauron
I am wondering if it is less about the ability to see and go through progressions and more a desire to look for the big play too much. It sometimes feels a little SRG with him. He locks in on the deep route a lot. You see some guys who go from option 1 to the check down, cause they can't read. While he is not elite, we have seem Milroe go through the progression to option 2 or 3 some last year and a little better this last game. We almost never see him look at the check down, unless I am misremembering.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 8:55 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 8:53 am to Sauron
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hope I never see him take another sack when the checkdown or outlet receiver is standing wide open.
WIDE OPEN!
But i agree with you that we were spoiled by Tua. He had a super power of knowing where everyone was going to be. Jalen just doesnt have that same processing speed.
But on one hand, with Tua he was doing all that presnap. He was getting the ball out faster than anything ive ever seen. So it wasnt like he was waiting on a play to develop. It's like when Kiffin would throw his hands up as soon as the ball was snapped. He knew what was going to happen pre-snap. So with the new radio in the helmet, cant we get some of that same presnap info to Jalen without him having to make the read?
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:03 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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So with the new radio in the helmet, cant we get some of that same presnap info to Jalen without him having to make the read?
The radio has to shut off at 15 seconds on the play clock. A good defense would use that to their advantage.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:09 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Tua avoided check downs and throwaways like the plague too, and it got him hurt a ton. He's just elite at the intermediate stuff between the numbers and will absolutely pick a defense apart if they don't pressure him or shut down the middle of the field, which is probably the weakest aspect of Milroe's game.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:43 am to Robot Santa
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Tua avoided check downs and throwaways like the plague too, and it got him hurt a ton.
I think you're right. What I was remembering as checkdowns from Tua were actually swing passes. He was just so good at putting them right where they needed to be for the receiver to accelerate upfield.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 9:56 am to imjustafatkid
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radio has to shut off at 15 seconds on the play clock. A good defense would use that to their advantage.
Is it 15 or 10?
I agree it could become predictable and the defense would wait and then shift after the radio cuts off. But that can be a dangerous game. It would still be a chess match.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:11 am to SECSolomonGrundy
It is 15. There have been a few NFL QB who have gotten eaten up with shifts after the 15 seconds, I wouldn't advise putting Jalen in that situation.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:34 am to Carlton
It's 15 or when the ball is snapped. If you get up to the line quickly it can be a huge advantage for the offense.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:47 am to JIB
It can be, or you can end up like Jared Goff in the Super Bowl where McVay made all the reads and the Pats changed it on them towards the end of the 15 seconds. Against some opponents it will work gang busters, if you go against a strong D coordinator it will be a mess. Don't think it is something you want to try to implement at this point, but the earlier the better if you do.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 10:48 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:59 am to Carlton
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you can end up like Jared Goff in the Super Bowl where McVay made all the reads and the Pats changed it on them towards the end of the 15 seconds
Yeah but most teams dont have GOAT defensive minds and extra weeks to prep for that. We have seen Saban defenses frick themselves over because of late shifts and bad communication.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:31 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Yeah but most teams dont have GOAT defensive minds and extra weeks to prep for that. We have seen Saban defenses frick themselves over because of late shifts and bad communication.
This is one thing I think Wommack's defense will help with when it comes to Tennessee and other spread, HUNH offenses.
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:35 am to Carlton
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It is 15. There have been a few NFL QB who have gotten eaten up with shifts after the 15 seconds, I wouldn't advise putting Jalen in that situation.
I agree and one of the things Jalen must improve on is just taking the check down when its there..
Especially when Jam Miller is in the flats.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:59 am to SECSolomonGrundy
You wanna run this against UGA or OSU go for it. I think it is asking for trouble.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:11 pm to Carlton
I dont think we can run it all game. But if they practice it, they should be able to call some hot reads.
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