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re: Is Mario Cristobal Becoming a Suitable Saban Replacement?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:02 pm to bamameister
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:02 pm to bamameister
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The knock-on Cristobal is the time he's been a HC in Duckville. He had a first-round QB decide to come back for a senior season. When does that happen? When Hebert leaves and it's his recruits, let's see what kind of team he puts on the field.
Have you watched Oregon play? It's Cristobal's recruits that have brought that program back.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:22 pm to Shaft Williams
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Have you watched Oregon play? It's Cristobal's recruits that have brought that program back.
Not sure what difference that makes? Herbert is the best QB in the Pac 12 and that conference puts a lot of responsibility on the trigger puller.
McElwain had a couple of outstanding years in Florida. But he couldn't sustain the program over time. 9 and 4 in his first season, plenty we still don't know and plenty could still go wrong.
My other theory is that Manny Diaz is already struggling in Miami and had it not been for terrible timing Cristobal might be a Hurricane as we speak. Miami could once again be in the market for a HC before Alabama. If he's all that in a few years than the sneaker king will most likely make him an offer he can't refuse in Eugene.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:54 pm to bamameister
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Not sure what difference that makes? Herbert is the best QB in the Pac 12 and that conference puts a lot of responsibility on the trigger puller.
McElwain had a couple of outstanding years in Florida. But he couldn't sustain the program over time. 9 and 4 in his first season, plenty we still don't know and plenty could still go wrong.
My other theory is that Manny Diaz is already struggling in Miami and had it not been for terrible timing Cristobal might be a Hurricane as we speak. Miami could once again be in the market for a HC before Alabama. If he's all that in a few years than the sneaker king will most likely make him an offer he can't refuse in Eugene.
It means Oregon isn't a high flying team that is benefiting disproportionately from a good QB. Rather, Oregon is a grind it out, physical team on both sides of the ball. Oregon looks like a team where the head coach was an offensive lineman which Cristobal was.
McElwain? Outstanding? Brother what's outstanding to you? 10-4, 9-4, and 3-4 aren't outstanding seasons but those were McElwain's records at Florida.
Miami won't pay the money for Cristobal. It ain't happening. Miami put out feelers for Cristobal but they don't have the money to bring him back. Cristobal will only take a high profile job with big money to leave Oregon.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 10/23/19 at 3:44 pm to RollTide4Ever
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Bama recruits itself,
I don’t recall Bama being nearly this good of a recruiting school prior to Saban. I know Bama was bad and had sanctions but even in the early 90s a lot of those great players were just really well coached. Miami and Florida State type schools were where recruits went.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 4:17 pm to labamafan
Bama before Mike Dubose hit on a little more than half of the in state blue chip talent while getting the rest from the southeastern region especially Mississippi. We can still win with that blueprint but it's much easier when you can recruit the other 48 states.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 5:19 pm to Shaft Williams
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I wonder if Dabo would give up a better quality of life to be the head coach at Alabama.
Apart from coaching in an easier football league, how, exactly, does Dabo have a better quality of life at Clemson than Saban has at Alabama?
Posted on 10/23/19 at 5:22 pm to labamafan
That's b/c Bama's facilities were middle-tier in 1990s. Alot of malfeasance set in after Bryant retired: Gotta have a "Bear" man as hc, players will come b/c of tradishun, etc. that sort of nonsense while programs like UT, UF, and LSU upped their game and caught up.
I said my piece on Dabo, I can just thank God he's a pipe dream at this point. I would hate for him to get Bama in ncaa trouble. I remember Bama hiring the DL coach from Bama and for some mysterious reason he couldn't replicate the same results at Bama that he had at Clemson.
I said my piece on Dabo, I can just thank God he's a pipe dream at this point. I would hate for him to get Bama in ncaa trouble. I remember Bama hiring the DL coach from Bama and for some mysterious reason he couldn't replicate the same results at Bama that he had at Clemson.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 5:25 pm to whitefoot
Ed O also has almost a decade on Cristobal. Believe me, Orgeron had his special moments at Ole Miss.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:32 pm to Shaft Williams
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It means Oregon isn't a high flying team that is benefiting disproportionately from a good QB. Rather, Oregon is a grind it out, physical team on both sides of the ball. Oregon looks like a team where the head coach was an offensive lineman which Cristobal was.
McElwain? Outstanding? Brother what's outstanding to you? 10-4, 9-4, and 3-4 aren't outstanding seasons but those were McElwain's records at Florida.
Which is why I quoted Cristabol's record last season, 9-4.
I wouldn't know why anyone would think that comparing either coach is apples to oranges. You don't want to go back to Cristabol's other HC gig in Florida, do you?
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Miami won't pay the money for Cristobal. It ain't happening. Miami put out feelers for Cristobal but they don't have the money to bring him back. Cristobal will only take a high profile job with big money to leave Oregon.
You, nor I, nor anyone else, know what the decision will be if Momma calls.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 6:50 pm to bamameister
Knowing Miami history, if their AD gave a damn about football then Joe Brady is the first call. Getting Cristobal from Nike U won't be cheap.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:24 pm to RollTide4Ever
i'm not sold on cristobal. i cant really put my finger on what it is about him that makes me think he'd be average at best at bama.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:36 pm to Bolivar Shagnasty
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Saban's recommendation for his replacement at LSU was Houston Nutt.
Who was pretty good at the time. He'd be like the James Franklin of today. Hot name.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 7:39 pm to stomp
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Didn't we learn anything from 1982 to 2006?
Bryant was more about personality and spanned decades.
Saban basically has patented his "process."
Everyone's trying to duplicate by hiring his assistants, only Kirby has come close.
Saban would be the only person to be able to know which assistant could duplicate it the closest.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:04 pm to Bolivar Shagnasty
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Saban's recommendation for his replacement at LSU was Houston Nutt.
To be fair, Nutt with good players is a heck of a coach. He just can’t pull good players on his own.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 8:24 pm to JustGetItRight
That's another thing with these good ole boys, they always dikking the secretary or some isht. As soon as Dabo sets foot in Tuscaloosa, some Tammy will have her claws in him.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:22 pm to Spread
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Apart from coaching in an easier football league, how, exactly, does Dabo have a better quality of life at Clemson than Saban has at Alabama?
That's the quality of life piece! The ACC allows Dabo and his staff to take a day off every week and do what they please. Imagine doing that at Bama and you lose a game. The situation would be ugly.
Posted on 10/23/19 at 9:23 pm to bamameister
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You, nor I, nor anyone else, know what the decision will be if Momma calls.
I'm telling you Mama did call Cristobal but she couldn't afford him.
Posted on 10/24/19 at 9:05 pm to Bolivar Shagnasty
I remember all too well. However, I believe Saban now has the longest streak in college football of not losing to an unranked team and it’s not even close. The last one was La Monroe in 2007.
If Bama does lose a game, it’s to a team good enough to be ranked. Sure, there have been some close calls like Ricky Block, but Bama finds a way. That’s probably the most impressive streak Saban has, bar none. Dabo has at least one close call annually to an unranked team and several ended in losses. That’s the difference.
If Bama does lose a game, it’s to a team good enough to be ranked. Sure, there have been some close calls like Ricky Block, but Bama finds a way. That’s probably the most impressive streak Saban has, bar none. Dabo has at least one close call annually to an unranked team and several ended in losses. That’s the difference.
Posted on 10/25/19 at 12:23 am to phil4bama
Posted on 10/25/19 at 9:22 am to Shaft Williams
IMO, Alabama should never hire another coach that hasn't won a championship at some level as a head coach.
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