re: In this post Saban era, when does this board usually start holding a coach responsible?

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And a better O line.

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The O-line isn't even as bad as they seem. Another one of Milroe's many flaws is that he has no pocket awareness. On the plays where he does need to hang in the pocket, he drifts backwards into the rushing lanes. Herbstreit even mentioned that during the OU game, that he needed to "step up or out".

More than half his sack or trouble on passing plays would be avoided if he would have simply shuffled one or two steps into the pocket.

Saban, Kirby and Sark's teams didn't look well prepared in their first season either and this current team is filled with remnants of a unit that absolutely shite the bed against three trash teams last year while getting embarrassed by a team Deboer beat.

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Go watch DeBoers Washington and Fresno State offenses, then watch this years team. Something will become strikingly clear. None of those teams were a one-read or run offense. They were dynamic and put a lot of stress on defenses from being in conflict. The number of plays and looks that his previous teams gave was light years beyond what we've done this year. They can't be running more than 20% of the book.

We have had WR's open all year, but getting the ball to them would require coming off the first read and being able to diagnose what a defense is doing pre-snap. Watts and McElroy have both been very, very critical of Milroe having no plan and no idea what's happening pre-snap. He just snaps the ball and tries to win through athleticism. By this time in the year, WR's have become so decoupled from the game, they lose focus and make mistakes.

We can't even run RPO or an option game, because he can't make the right call on when to give the ball or keep it. He always defaults to keep it. Honestly, that may be the biggest knock on him there is. The RPO is a perfect weapon for someone with his skills, but he can't process the defense and doesn't have the capacity to execute.

Coaches can only set up the play, if you aren't executing, none of it matters.

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I think they're just trying to make it through a year with Milroe since he already had established leadership with this team. They need to do everything they can to squeeze one more good game out of Milroe so they can keep the fanbase somewhat placated. A loss to Auburn would be an abysmal failure of a season no matter what other quality wins he notched. Alabama fans expectations in a 12-team playoff era are beat the two biggest traditional rivals and make an at-large bid in the CFP at a minimum. Winning the SEC is nice but losing to rivals and playing in shite-end bowls are a recipe for bad vibes in this era. Bad vibes can sour recruiting for him and he really needs every advantage towards gaining a toehold into this region in recruiting.

The other aspect is Alabama is still on the fringe of making the 12-team playoff with 3 losses if the bounces go their way. DeBoer could salvage a "2 out of 3 ain't bad" year 1 with a good game this Saturday and a little luck.

The Vanderbilt and Oklahoma games were 100% on the coaching staff for not having the team ready to play.

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So I don't begrudge making assessments as long as you realize that it is ridiculous to expect a termination 11 games into a tenure.

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Yeah it's just not reasonable to have a coach on the hot seat after 11 games. That said, I do not expect him to last long at this point. It's not even that I think he's a bad coach. He's not. You don't win that many games if you're a bad football coach. I just don't get the impression that he's built for the grind of the SEC. You can't take a light week because you have a road game coming up against Stanford or UCLA where even your C+ game should be enough to secure a win.

I hope I'm wrong and this season is the product of a bunch of toxic shitheads in the locker room who will not be back next season, but I'm just getting a lot of Mark Richt vibes from DeBoer and Mark Richt would be a hell of a lot less successful in the current environment.

The OP is one of the biggest and most obvious trolls on this site.

The problem with the offensive preparation is the starting QB is incapable of executing the game plan and it’s obvious that the head coach doesn’t think the backup is, either. And the offense starts with the QB.

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This is why you Milroe fans have been so insufferable.

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you invert that as if his play is unassailable and he's only criticized for other reasons.

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been hearing from you people that he only gets criticized because he's black since 2022

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If you're a white person saying it, you are simply mentally ill.

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Wow... That is a lot to break down. I'll try to dumb it down. I'm critical of him when he's bad and praise when he plays well. I'm fair in the regard. What I'm simply saying is that he isn't the only reason we're losing, which so many people on here want to think.

I guess to be part of the cool kids club around here and not be considered a troll, I have to completely trash the players at every chance possible, even if that won't fix any problems. Ok, got it.

This is what people who insist all a coach has to do is be large and in charge to fix this stuff aren’t getting.