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Lordofwrath88
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6630 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
How do you destroy a culture?



First: Remove the reasons to defend it in the first place.


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CapstoneGrad06
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2008
63987 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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They going to rename the bird too?


Did you not read the entire post?


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14&Counting
Hawaii Fan
Manhattan Beach, CA
Member since Jul 2012
24403 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
Roll Tide is too embedded in the vernacular. Its like "Aloha"


phil4bama
Alabama Fan
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
9210 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
And now Sankey has got in on the act. The state of Mississippi is under threat of no SEC championship events until the state flag is redesigned.

I am not a racist. Slavery was an abomination. I’m sorry if some of the AA community is offended by symbolism of the Confederacy and the Old South. But erasing history will not change or undo it. On the contrary, forgetting it makes us more likely to repeat the mistakes. The United States of America has been conquered and subjugated without a shot fired.
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14&Counting
Hawaii Fan
Manhattan Beach, CA
Member since Jul 2012
24403 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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And now Sankey has got in on the act. The state of Mississippi is under threat of no SEC championship events until the state flag is redesigned.



I believe it said no SEC Championship events in the state but I am not aware of any championship events held in the state? Unless its some Title IV sport.

But yeah its a shot across the bow to get that changed.


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labamafan
Alabama Fan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
20761 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
Or is it the fact that black men are finding any and everything to be offended by. Not one individual is associating race with that chant. This has become silly nonsense.


CapstoneGrad06
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2008
63987 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
Mississippi has had several new flag proposals over the last 20 years. It went to a vote in 2001. But was defeated. So none of this is new for Mississippi. In fact, the current flag was not used until 1894. The magnolia flag was the original state flag of Mississippi.


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BamaMamaof2
Alabama Fan
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
477 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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Or is it the fact that black men are finding any and everything to be offended by. Not one individual is associating race with that chant. This has become silly nonsense.


Bingo.

I think you are right, the black community is searching for any link to anything that could possibly be racist and it has become ridiculous!

Look, I don't like the Gator Bait cheer any more than the next guy, but when they start messing with college football cheers based on 1800's folklore, this has gone too far!
I think we are good. Certainly, there is nothing they can connect Roll Tide to with racism.


RTRcdub
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2019
394 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
Maybe not, but they can certainly stretch to link Sweet Home Alabama, Dixieland Delight, Rammer Jammer, and any coach before the civil rights movements (including Bear) to racism.

...and if any of the above are banned due to “racism”, I’m probably not watching football again for a while
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TidalSurge1
Alabama Fan
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
25608 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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And now Sankey has got in on the act. The state of Mississippi is under threat of no SEC championship events until the state flag is redesigned.

Sankey probably knew what the NCAA was going to announce.

SEC commissioner calls out Mississippi to change state flag (247Sports)

NCAA updates confederate flag policy (247Sports)

Mississippi State president releases statement regarding flag (247Sports)

Ole Miss admin reacts to SEC's call to change state flag (247Sports)
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Mississippi

Image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/42/Flag_of_Mississippi.svg/510px-Flag_of_Mississippi.svg.png


Confederate States of America

Image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_%281861%E2%80%931863%29.svg/510px-Flag_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America_%281861%E2%80%931863%29.svg.png


The first national flag of the Confederate States of America with 13 stars each representing a state.

State of Georgia

Image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Flag_of_Georgia_%28U.S._state%29.svg/510px-Flag_of_Georgia_%28U.S._state%29.svg.png


The ring of stars that encompass the state's coat of arms represents Georgia as one of the original Thirteen Colonies.

Looks like Georgia might need a new state flag in oder to host the SEC football title game. Easy -- just change the three horizontal bars to the same stripes as the USA flag.
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Robot Santa
SMU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
34467 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
Empty, meaningless threats meant to virtue signal and nothing less. As has been pointed out numerous times elsewhere already, Georgia's state flag is literally the Confederate national flag with the state seal superimposed on it, but you don't see Sankey threatening to move the football championship game out of Atlanta. Mostly because the average person is too ignorant of history to actually know that the Georgia state flag is the Confederate national flag, so no one cares.


RolltidePA
Alabama Fan
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
1342 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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Or is it the fact that black men are finding any and everything to be offended by. Not one individual is associating race with that chant. This has become silly nonsense.



Oddly enough, my black friends and neighbors think a lot of this stuff is ridiculous. Crap like "Gator Bait" being banned is being generated by white people virtue signaling.

Also, the consensus is this apparent practice likely never actually took place.
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BamaMamaof2
Alabama Fan
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
477 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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Empty, meaningless threats meant to virtue signal and nothing less. As has been pointed out numerous times elsewhere already, Georgia's state flag is literally the Confederate national flag with the state seal superimposed on it, but you don't see Sankey threatening to move the football championship game out of Atlanta. Mostly because the average person is too ignorant of history to actually know that the Georgia state flag is the Confederate national flag, so no one cares.


Most people aren't even aware of that there were numerous Confederate flags. Everyone thinks the Stars and Bars was the flag of the Confederacy and is wasn't, it was the battle flag.
When they changed the GA flag, those of here who actually knew our history got a bit of a laugh about it.


LovetheLord
Alabama Fan
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
3519 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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And now Sankey has got in on the act. The state of Mississippi is under threat of no SEC championship events until the state flag is redesigned.


Are we going to have to fight another war? Outside overreach and arrogance led to the first American Civil War. I don't like slavery any more than anyone els. I don't have any Confederate Flags nor will I. But, I am not in support of an outside pressure campaign or boycott to force states to toe a party line. What else will people find offensive and in need of being eradicated?


CapstoneGrad06
Alabama Fan
Member since Nov 2008
63987 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
I’ve kind of been back and forth on all of this stuff. Trying to see both sides but a recent event in Little Rock (where I live) definitely perturbed me.

I’ll just repost what I stated in another thread:

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I know some of that is hyperbole but you may not be far off. I live in Little Rock and they quietly removed a Confederate statue from MacArthur Park to “to a more appropriate place”. Mind you, MacArthur Park is a former military base and now historical military museum on the grounds.

It was a pretty innocuous statue. Memorial for a company of volunteers from Pulaski County. None of the Lost Cause language on it you see at some of the other monuments and memorials placed by DOTC. And it is actually listed on the National Register of Historic Places.



Snout Spout
Alabama Fan
Member since Jul 2015
513 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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Most people aren't even aware of that there were numerous Confederate flags. Everyone thinks the Stars and Bars was the flag of the Confederacy and is wasn't, it was the battle flag.
When they changed the GA flag, those of here who actually knew our history got a bit of a laugh about it.




Actually, "the stars and bars" is the original CSA flag posted in this thread, not the battle flag.


BamaMamaof2
Alabama Fan
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
477 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
You are correct, my bad. Just get a little worked up over all this craziness going on here.


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Robot Santa
SMU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
34467 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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I’ve kind of been back and forth on all of this stuff. Trying to see both sides but a recent event in Little Rock (where I live) definitely perturbed me.

I’ll just repost what I stated in another thread:

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I know some of that is hyperbole but you may not be far off. I live in Little Rock and they quietly removed a Confederate statue from MacArthur Park to “to a more appropriate place”. Mind you, MacArthur Park is a former military base and now historical military museum on the grounds.

It was a pretty innocuous statue. Memorial for a company of volunteers from Pulaski County. None of the Lost Cause language on it you see at some of the other monuments and memorials placed by DOTC. And it is actually listed on the National Register of Historic Places


Yeah I don't really feel comfortable on either side of the issue. I support an end to publicly glorifying Confederate imagery and putting it appropriate places like museums or battlefield parks, and I can get behind the idea of police reform. However, I do not believe that organizations like BLM or Antifa are, or will ever be, good faith negotiators and I do not see them ever being satisfied with anything short of an absolute capitulation to their demands.


SummerOfGeorge
Alabama Fan
DeKalb
Member since Jul 2013
66655 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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Yeah I don't really feel comfortable on either side of the issue. I support an end to publicly glorifying Confederate imagery and putting it appropriate places like museums or battlefield parks, and I can get behind the idea of police reform. However, I do not believe that organizations like BLM or Antifa are, or will ever be, good faith negotiators and I do not see them ever being satisfied with anything short of an absolute capitulation to their demands.


Agree - that's the space I live in right now, and like most people who have that view, my decision is just to keep my mouth shut outside of actual face to face conversation. There is no way to productively discuss the things you just described in the current atmosphere on message boards of social media.
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TidalSurge1
Alabama Fan
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
25608 posts

re: If you think "Roll Tide" is safe from the purge, I have some sad news.
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