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re: How would you grade Deboer’s first year?
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:50 pm to BamaChemE
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:50 pm to BamaChemE
D
2-1 vs rivals
Big win over Georgia
Had his team completely unprepared against average Vanderbilt and Oklahoma teams.
Decided it was a good idea to have Milroe throw the ball 45 times against Tennessee.
Has the most talented team he will ever have and lost 3 games.
If Alabama misses the playoffs, then it is a F.
2-1 vs rivals
Big win over Georgia
Had his team completely unprepared against average Vanderbilt and Oklahoma teams.
Decided it was a good idea to have Milroe throw the ball 45 times against Tennessee.
Has the most talented team he will ever have and lost 3 games.
If Alabama misses the playoffs, then it is a F.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:50 pm to Chris ALL Capps
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It's just the nature of two of those losses that has been most disappointing to me.
Yep. Could've easily lived with losses to Georgia and Tennessee this year with a playoff berth, and maybe make some noise in the playoffs.
But losing to Vanderbilt and Oklahoma - 2 teams around .500 - embarrassing tbh.
Especially getting blown out by Oklahoma with everything on the line late in the season. One of the worst losses I can remember.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:51 pm to remaster916
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Has the most talented team he will ever have
Not even close. He had a much more talented team last year at Washington
Consider this: Germie Bernard was his 4th WR at Washington last year. He's been our best WR this year ever since Ryan Williams went downhill
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 6:53 pm
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:52 pm to BamaChemE
B-
Specifically dude to the lack of discipline/focus. See critical penalties and unforced errors early in the season.
Specifically dude to the lack of discipline/focus. See critical penalties and unforced errors early in the season.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:52 pm to BasedCrimson
So Washington has out recruited Alabama? That is a new one on me.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:54 pm to remaster916
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So Washington has out recruited Alabama?
Apparently so. These recruiting sites are a joke
That Washington team last year would've stomped a mudhole in this team's arse
This post was edited on 11/30/24 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:55 pm to BamaChemE
Probably a B. I wasn't shocked to lose 3 games. But, how we lost some of them was a little disconcerting.
He was never going to dominate in year one. I liked the hire, and I'm still optimistic. I hope some of the issues we saw were first year installation/didn't have his guys yet issues.
He was never going to dominate in year one. I liked the hire, and I'm still optimistic. I hope some of the issues we saw were first year installation/didn't have his guys yet issues.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:55 pm to BasedCrimson
Yep.
That Oklahoma shite looks bad on a playoff resume.
It also looks bad on deboer as a potential nfl coach.
That Oklahoma shite looks bad on a playoff resume.
It also looks bad on deboer as a potential nfl coach.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 6:59 pm to BamaChemE
C+ . Two losses to unranked teams in the same season that we really had no business losing to. Offense and defense both looked great at times, but also worse than Sun Belt quality at times more than they should have. I know personnel wasn’t always ideal. Next year should be interesting.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:01 pm to remaster916
I mean Bama having the most talented team on paper doesn’t mean they that have the most talented team
Otherwise Auburn, USC post Carroll, UF post Meyer, etc. would’ve been top 10 teams since they had multiple top 10 recruiting classes
Otherwise Bama would have the most or one of the most talented OL, WR room, and RB rooms in the country each of the past 3 years. But that’s certainly not the case and you know it
Otherwise Auburn, USC post Carroll, UF post Meyer, etc. would’ve been top 10 teams since they had multiple top 10 recruiting classes
Otherwise Bama would have the most or one of the most talented OL, WR room, and RB rooms in the country each of the past 3 years. But that’s certainly not the case and you know it
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:02 pm to TouchdownAlabama
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I go back and forth between B- and C+. It’s about what I expected. I think I initially said I could see 8-4 or 10-2 being his first year regular season record. So 9-3 is right in the middle.
This is where I am too. I'm glad that we beat 2/3 rivals. The Georgia win was a real high. But the lows were really low.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:02 pm to BamaChemE
B-
Finishing 9-3 is ok but how they lost to OU and Vandy were bad. Somewhat but not fully balanced out by beating 3-4 ranked teams including UGA
Finishing 9-3 is ok but how they lost to OU and Vandy were bad. Somewhat but not fully balanced out by beating 3-4 ranked teams including UGA
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:05 pm to Teague
People obsessed about Vandy because Vandy isn’t “supposed” to be good, but they are competent this year and they have a gamer at QB and they caught us with our pants down, and I got over that one very quickly although I will always hate it.
The one I haven’t gotten over is Oklahoma, with what was at stake that complete bed crapping by everyone in our traveling party was inexcusable and unacceptable.
I keep saying this, but what DeBoer has to get through his skull is that there are never, ever going to be any gimmes in this conference and it is imperative that you are ready to do business in each of the 8 league games. It really looked like he and his staff thought all we had to do is show up in Norman.
The one I haven’t gotten over is Oklahoma, with what was at stake that complete bed crapping by everyone in our traveling party was inexcusable and unacceptable.
I keep saying this, but what DeBoer has to get through his skull is that there are never, ever going to be any gimmes in this conference and it is imperative that you are ready to do business in each of the 8 league games. It really looked like he and his staff thought all we had to do is show up in Norman.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:06 pm to BamaChemE
Solid B. Definitely room for improvement but overall, given Radio’s limitations, I think he did pretty well.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:07 pm to BamaChemE
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I give him a B or B-
Agreed
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:08 pm to InkStainedWretch
Vanderbilt went 6-6.
Alabama beat a 6-6 Vanderbilt team 34-0 in 2011. That's what Alabama is supposed to do to average to bad team.
Alabama was completely unprepared for the game.
The OU game was a repeat of the Vandy game. Meaning that the coaches didn't learn from their mistakes.
Alabama beat a 6-6 Vanderbilt team 34-0 in 2011. That's what Alabama is supposed to do to average to bad team.
Alabama was completely unprepared for the game.
The OU game was a repeat of the Vandy game. Meaning that the coaches didn't learn from their mistakes.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:08 pm to BamaChemE
Positives:
* Team defense improved over the course of the season despite a lot of injuries. They had deficiencies but basically only cost the team one game all season and it was in the first half of the season.
* Beat several important teams in our recruiting battles this year and down the line: Auburn, Georgia, and LSU.
* 9 wins in the first year at a program is not bad. Especially considering that Alabama's schedule was very tough and couple of the supposed "filler" conference games ended up being quality opponents.
Negatives
* Offensive production trended downward over the course of the season in many metrics.
* Team discipline was not great this season. This was a trend that started under Saban but a new staff has seemingly only made it worse.
* Turnovers became a huge problem in conference play. Ball security has been an issue. Quarterback making bad decisions for the direction of the pass is arguably the bigger turnover problem. How much of that can be improved by a new quarterback who is a more natural passer?
Grade: B-
It was a good season but not a great one. The success metric in the 12-team playoff era is to make the playoffs and beat your biggest rivals. Losing to Tennessee the way we lost it was miserable. The other two losses are miserable losses to mediocre football teams. Those two bad losses played us right out of the playoffs. Beating UGA, LSU, and Auburn plus nabbing two quality wins against USC and Mizzou is commendable though. Ultimately, DeBoer likely went 1 out of 3 on the success metric: beat Auburn, lost to Tennessee, missed playoffs.
* Team defense improved over the course of the season despite a lot of injuries. They had deficiencies but basically only cost the team one game all season and it was in the first half of the season.
* Beat several important teams in our recruiting battles this year and down the line: Auburn, Georgia, and LSU.
* 9 wins in the first year at a program is not bad. Especially considering that Alabama's schedule was very tough and couple of the supposed "filler" conference games ended up being quality opponents.
Negatives
* Offensive production trended downward over the course of the season in many metrics.
* Team discipline was not great this season. This was a trend that started under Saban but a new staff has seemingly only made it worse.
* Turnovers became a huge problem in conference play. Ball security has been an issue. Quarterback making bad decisions for the direction of the pass is arguably the bigger turnover problem. How much of that can be improved by a new quarterback who is a more natural passer?
Grade: B-
It was a good season but not a great one. The success metric in the 12-team playoff era is to make the playoffs and beat your biggest rivals. Losing to Tennessee the way we lost it was miserable. The other two losses are miserable losses to mediocre football teams. Those two bad losses played us right out of the playoffs. Beating UGA, LSU, and Auburn plus nabbing two quality wins against USC and Mizzou is commendable though. Ultimately, DeBoer likely went 1 out of 3 on the success metric: beat Auburn, lost to Tennessee, missed playoffs.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:10 pm to InkStainedWretch
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I keep saying this, but what DeBoer has to get through his skull is that there are never, ever going to be any gimmes in this conference and it is imperative that you are ready to do business in each of the 8 league games. It really looked like he and his staff thought all we had to do is show up in Norman.
I hope it was a huge punch in the mouth in regards to his preparation going forward. Just because it works at UW or Fresno, doesn't mean it will in the SEC.
I think it's almost unrealistic to expect to go undefeated anymore, but your loss(es) better be competitive.
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