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re: Greg McElroy/Cole Cubelic on the bowl game

Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3108 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:43 pm to
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Question: Can players receiving NIL share that and basically put other players on their payroll? If so, this creates serious issues.


They can with gifts even cash gifts. You can give up to $19,000 in 2025 to one person and have no gift tax.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4922 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:54 pm to
Bottom line: This ain’t like it used to be and it’s never going to be like it used to be again. Hopefully we’ll reach some type of equilibrium moving forward.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22274 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:02 pm to
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I am betting these folks are closer to the truth than the immortal Jimmy Stein.


I'm not sure what some of you think Jimmy said. I heard the actual podcast. All he is saying is that the morons that think "Simpson couldn't even beat out Milroe, therefore he definitely sucks" are wrong. That's ALL he said.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
938 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:37 pm to
The offensive "brain trust" spent a great deal of time attempting to adjust the offensive structuretomatch what JM could do. I the game planning / gme prep is set up for one set of rules and you toss in a QB that does not excell under that set of rules, everything falls apart likely as bad as the JM experience did.

if you attempt to change the structure from 3 months of work to a new structure during a single game prep cycle...what is the point? The OL will not meshwell. The RB will not haveafeel for the readque's they not to react upon.

I made the statement back in October that CKD had to make a decision as to what was more important to him,attempting to save this season or attempting to reset for saving the next two seasons and his future. He choseto try and salvage this season...he failed.

Making a major change during the two weeks before LSU would have been dificult on everyone. The change required was in team disapline, playing style, and leading personnel. Our final record would not likely have been any better than where it ended up but the team would be set up for duilding toward next year. Now, he has lost almost 3 month worth of work and will have to start that without the ability to see how the changes work in live action where he could make inor adjustments on the fly. I effect, he has lost 10+ months of time in that effort that will not be there for fine tuning until next September/October. CKD owns the choice. He will have to be one hell of a good coach to did out of the hole he put himself,and the team.in.

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56012 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:47 pm to
I see what you are saying, but isn't that being a tad bit dramatic? What is the difference between that and any other team that is starting a new QB that didn't get much experience the previous season? Happens to every other team in any given year, and especially so now with the transfer portal.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11535 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:49 pm to
I don't think you can throw away a season like that at a school like Alabama. He had to do what he thought was the best bet for championship level competition this year. Next year is a problem for January.

Last year, Freeze was apparently not very involved in the day to day and instead focused on recruiting. So his team sucked last year and didn't really look any better for it this year either.

I'd take our 9-4 over playing Ty Simpson for half the season and go 7-6 to 8-5.
Posted by Bamadoc
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2014
4584 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:03 pm to
counterpoint is that I do not think CKD just neglected Ty and Austins development either.

His system wont be foreign to them or Keelon for that matter.

RW, GB high IQ WR, Parker is that for the OL, RBs and TEs are fine

The relief of getting out of this JM offense will make the entire offense excel even with as you say "wasted 10 months" against them
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28682 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:05 pm to
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There is nobody on that OL this year nor last that is worth the trouble.



Not true, actually.

Not only is someone from that OL last year about to win a national championship...he was also first team all-Big Ten and won the Rimington Award.

Clearly that young man had the talent, physical attributes, work ethic, and an attitude of being willing to let himself be coached up.

Why couldn't that have happened for him at Alabama?
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11535 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:10 pm to
Isn't Seth McLaughlin out for the season with an injury? He was playing great though.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28682 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 2:14 pm to
Yes, torn Achilles in November. Still was 1st team all B1G and won the Rimington Award. Truly amazing turnaround.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10267 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 3:15 pm to
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Why couldn't that have happened for him at Alabama?


I don't know. Ask Nick Saban. McLaughlin never played a down for DeBoer.
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
3074 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 7:40 pm to
Thanks for sharing brother
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21184 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:00 pm to
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IMO - he’s becoming desperate and I think desperation leads to more emotion.


Oh, I'm sure he is desperate...


to have a QB that can execute more than 25% of his playbook
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15459 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 10:58 pm to
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if you attempt to change the structure from 3 months of work to a new structure during a single game prep cycle...what is the point? The OL will not meshwell. The RB will not haveafeel for the readque's they not to react upon.


OU sure didn’t have much trouble installing a new system over two weeks and whipping our arse
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21184 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:23 pm to
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OU sure didn’t have much trouble installing a new system over two weeks and whipping our arse


If you have to install a new system over your bye week, you're probably a desperate team who fired your OC with nothing to lose just trying to get a win.

Sounds familiar.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 11:24 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14724 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 11:26 pm to
There is plenty of time to have a good offense/ good QB play , plenty of time
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30911 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 12:26 pm to
"I think DeBoer is a very good coach, and can be very successful here, especially once he can structure the team (especially the offense) as he wants. On the flip side, it's concerning that he apparently didn't feel he could make the changes needed to help the team be as successful as they could be.
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Correct. He's pretty much got in mind his starter for next year, and you can bet your arse that whichever it is, he'll be MUCH better in sink with the rest of the talent on the field!
Hell, DeBoer had little or no time to put "his" team together, while sitting down the captain/ QB and team leader for another player.
People around here need to get real about expectations for a first year headcoach, especially at Alabama.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 12:38 pm
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