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Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:24 am to Diego Ricardo
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:24 am to Diego Ricardo
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Agents getting 15-20% cut on cfb athletes is insane and way more than a realistic commission for an agency in damn near any line of work.
Yeah, unfortunately agencies take deeper cuts than that from a lot of people just starting out or working in less protected parts of the entertainment industry.
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Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:31 am to JoylessMurderball
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JoylessMurderball
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Take your dumbass comments somewhere else man because you are the worst poster on this board and have been since Milroe played a snap at Alabama.
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Registered on: 9/9/2024
Hmmmm.
Not that you're wrong or anything.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:46 am to Diego Ricardo
I truly hope you're right because the game in its current form I'm quickly getting tired of...
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:53 am to PowHound
Thanks for reaffirming that you're a dumbass and the worst poster on this board. You bring nothing of value to any discussion besides that milroe is radio, so congratulations on that.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 10:55 am to Robot Santa
Haha. I was here back in the Buccwild Bama days and then took a break for a few years after I stopped following recruiting. Been a lurker the past couple of years.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:02 am to JoylessMurderball
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What actions has Morgan made that makes him Suge Knight? Because I think the only similarities are that theyre both fat and black.
I don't know about Suge Knight, but he's one of the dumbasses who got off the bus in Knoxville smoking a cigar. Trust him? How about fire him?
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:03 am to Hawaiian Punch
Capitalism at it's best. When they decided to do always with amateur sports at the college level driven by football, this is what you get. The Olympics caved on amateurism because countries abused the system. The big time college football programs did the same thing. Texas killed the Southwest Conference, and in turn the Big Twelve, with their greed. Alabama was good at keeping up with the Jones as were the other big time players. Miami enjoyed a short stint of success, but did not have the infrastructure to sustain. Don't know what happened to Nebraska unless the alumni dropped out? Welcome to the new paradigm. Hard to tell where it is going.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:03 am to JoylessMurderball
That is absolutely wild.
So basically randoms can just hit up schools and offer kids they don't know and get paid a significant sum.
This isn't sustainable
So basically randoms can just hit up schools and offer kids they don't know and get paid a significant sum.
This isn't sustainable
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:11 am to Diego Ricardo
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The players need a union to bring these predatory agents to heel.
You would have more corruption than you do right now with a union.
It would be a monumental task to form a players union. Every college player in the country in every sport to represent. The staff alone to operate it would be enormous.
Electing a President and an executive board, the lawyers involved, and most importantly you have to pay all these ppl. They’re not going to do it for nothing
Then comes the politicians and their going to want their cut as well. College players union is a disaster way to happen
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:19 am to BamaGradinTn
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I don't know about Suge Knight, but he's one of the dumbasses who got off the bus in Knoxville smoking a cigar. Trust him? How about fire him?
Wasnt that Josh Chapman?
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:21 am to YStar
Yep. I think he was on the high side with NFL Agents too with the 3%. I think most NFL agents are around 1%.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:30 am to JoylessMurderball
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Wasnt that Josh Chapman?
Yeah, the only pic I saw circulated was definitely of Chapman.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 11:46 am to remaster916
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Need good coaches and money. Example; Georgia, Oregon and Texas. Have that and you are set every single year. Bama needs to pay up and get better coaching.
Here’s the problem and I know this from direct experience with this at Alabama.
This year was a huge year for Coach DeBoer in reference to getting more donors. Vandy hurt, but he recovered with LSU blowout, the UT loss actually didn’t hurt him that bad. Then Oklahoma and us not making the playoff. Donors, allocations, and next years list fell way off after that. The problem is, Saban was winning and had us mostly in position to be in the playoff or the old format before it, success brings the money. We are on the fence of losing a lot of donors. I was close to pulling back not because of the short sided view of the win and losses but because of the embarrassment of discipline on the field. You have teams who absolutely suck but don’t act out on the field and show their arse. So if Coach wants more money he has to win that’s basically the bottom line.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:03 pm to JoylessMurderball
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Yep. I think he was on the high side with NFL Agents too with the 3%. I think most NFL agents are around 1%.
3% is what they get off league contracts. Endorsement deals is a different matter.
Can't even lie some of these agents are straight thieves anyways. They will make a simple thing complex to get you to give them authority to make payment decisions then siphon your money
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:08 pm to CrimsonBoz
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This year was a huge year for Coach DeBoer in reference to getting more donors. Vandy hurt, but he recovered with LSU blowout, the UT loss actually didn’t hurt him that bad. Then Oklahoma and us not making the playoff. Donors, allocations, and next years list fell way off after that. The problem is, Saban was winning and had us mostly in position to be in the playoff or the old format before it, success brings the money. We are on the fence of losing a lot of donors. I was close to pulling back not because of the short sided view of the win and losses but because of the embarrassment of discipline on the field. You have teams who absolutely suck but don’t act out on the field and show their arse. So if Coach wants more money he has to win that’s basically the bottom line.
That's some interesting information there.
One thing KDB has shown is he is very prepared after a bye week and can be for big opponents.
The bad is he seems ill prepared for the smaller tricky opponents and this is where historical he has dropped games.
The reality is we weren't prepared for Vandy or Oklahoma. Like as far as gameplan and we couldn't adjust defensively.
If you look in the thread Twisted made about coaching adaptations, a guy brought up our analyst team. If you look at the small group KDB has we don't have a lot of defensive analyst help. In fact we have a small team of gameplan/adjustment experienced analyst compared to Georgia or Texas... heck compared to Saban last year.
These things are important for gameplanning future opponents and making adjustments because you have more eyes and ears on things and more experience with different views in the room. In my opinion that hurt us and it has hurt KDB who is used to a smaller staff obviously
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:12 pm to NWLA_Bama
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For all of those people who wanted "fairness" and the players to get their "fair share". This is what "fair" looks like... I hope they all like "fair".
There will be a bunch of slackjaws looking at each other in 10-15 years when college football has imploded and asking, "How did this happen?" Anyone with a lick of sense could have told them this was the inevitable result.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:13 pm to CrimsonBoz
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This year was a huge year for Coach DeBoer in reference to getting more donors. Vandy hurt, but he recovered with LSU blowout, the UT loss actually didn’t hurt him that bad. Then Oklahoma and us not making the playoff. Donors, allocations, and next years list fell way off after that. The problem is, Saban was winning and had us mostly in position to be in the playoff or the old format before it, success brings the money. We are on the fence of losing a lot of donors. I was close to pulling back not because of the short sided view of the win and losses but because of the embarrassment of discipline on the field. You have teams who absolutely suck but don’t act out on the field and show their arse. So if Coach wants more money he has to win that’s basically the bottom line.
so what's the end game here if big donors stop donating? Just idly watch as our talent depletes, and wait it out until we've had enough of DeBoer in a couple of years and hire the next coach hoping that its a homerun and then they'll start donating again? and if the next coach has the same problems, rinse and repeat? Seems like that isn't the best approach.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:20 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Here’s the problem and I know this from direct experience with this at Alabama.
This year was a huge year for Coach DeBoer in reference to getting more donors. Vandy hurt, but he recovered with LSU blowout, the UT loss actually didn’t hurt him that bad. Then Oklahoma and us not making the playoff. Donors, allocations, and next years list fell way off after that. The problem is, Saban was winning and had us mostly in position to be in the playoff or the old format before it, success brings the money. We are on the fence of losing a lot of donors. I was close to pulling back not because of the short sided view of the win and losses but because of the embarrassment of discipline on the field. You have teams who absolutely suck but don’t act out on the field and show their arse. So if Coach wants more money he has to win that’s basically the bottom line.
I'm in a fortunate position in my life/career that I can donate funds and a few others that I know that are in a position to do so as well. We are all alumni of the University and love it deeply. However, the way this NIL/portal shite is going none of us want to donate to a bunch of kids that have it easy compared to us when we were in school and the fact that you have to pay even more every year to just keep them on the roster. That is a huge turnoff. I am donating more to the business school than to 18-22 year old kids that really don't have to go to class. That is just my opinion and I realize that is not a good business plan for the athletics but until the NCAA deals with this Wild Wild West business of college athletics none of us are going to spend a dime on the NIL
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:28 pm to cdur86
Without controls in place - NIL is rife with mismanagement, overspending, and yes, embezzling. People are fools for writing unlimited checks without controls in place. Bring on the downvotes
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:28 pm to cdur86
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I'm in a fortunate position in my life/career that I can donate funds and a few others that I know that are in a position to do so as well. We are all alumni of the University and love it deeply. However, the way this NIL/portal shite is going none of us want to donate to a bunch of kids that have it easy compared to us when we were in school and the fact that you have to pay even more every year to just keep them on the roster. That is a huge turnoff. I am donating more to the business school than to 18-22 year old kids that really don't have to go to class. That is just my opinion and I realize that is not a good business plan for the athletics but until the NCAA deals with this Wild Wild West business of college athletics none of us are going to spend a dime on the NIL
It's your money you can do what you want with it. As long as you're prepared to slide back to the mediocrity we experienced in the late 90's early 2000's if all our alumnus decide to do the same thing. Because other schools are going to continue to drop bags and the NCAA can't do a single thing about it.
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