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Defensive Holding on a running play??

Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:50 am
Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:50 am
Yesterday Isaiah Faga got called for defensive holding on a running play because he “Held a guy up from getting to the LBer”. Im sorry but isn’t that the DLinemans job? I was taught growing up that on the DL you eat up blocks so the LBs can run free….that may be the dumbest rule in football.
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:53 am to
I've seen it called in the NFL if the holding by the defense puts the offense at a disadvantage.

Tackling a pulling guard so someone else can shoot the gap, tackling an OL so your pal can sack the QB.

Didn't ever see a good replay of it, but it is rarely called.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:53 am to
No its technically illegal but a lot of DL will try to get away with it. 49ers had a guy years ago who always did it, think it was Justin Smith. But basically an interior DL is gonna hold on tight to two interior OL and try to open up room for his buddies to come around free.
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:54 am to
Yeah at lineman camps it was basically God’s law that as OL you know the DL gets to help themselves to fat handfuls of your jersey but you can’t do that in return

A DL being called for “holding” an OL is laughable to me. Idc what the rule book says
Posted by Night Vision
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:55 am to
Bigger thing was their coach getting a penalty called on 4th down for a first down after the play was over for clapping before the snap.

There was no flag thrown and their QB was under center.

Doubt that play is legally reviewable.

Gave them a FG.
Posted by East Coast Band
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:55 am to
Every other offensive holding call is missed. But this crew wasn't gonna miss the rare defensive holding on a running play
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 8:58 am to
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There was no flag thrown and their QB was under center.


The replay showed the back official threw a flag. But it was total bullshite. The rule is to prevent simulating the snap. Hubbard was just clapping because the offense wasnt gonna run a play. I dont even think UK was snapping off a clap, were they?
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:01 am
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:01 am to
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Bigger thing was their coach getting a penalty called on 4th down for a first down after the play was over for clapping before the snap.


That’s another thing…they can’t retroactively enforce defensive Delay of Game…but yet they did.

That’s the whole reason we had to run 4th and 31 because AU safety was clapping and caused our Center to snap it early. And Saban argued for 10 mins and nothing was done about it because they couldn’t retroactively enforce it
This post was edited on 9/13/26 at 9:02 am
Posted by ChauvinisticPigAttit
Member since Mar 2026
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:02 am to
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Every other offensive holding call is missed. But this crew wasn't gonna miss the rare defensive holding on a running play


Guy must have the eyes of a hawk, because it was the back judge who threw it and it was maybe a millisecond after the ball was snapped.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:11 am to
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The replay showed the back official threw a flag. But it was total bullshite. The rule is to prevent simulating the snap. Hubbard was just clapping because the offense wasnt gonna run a play. I dont even think UK was snapping off a clap, were they?


Unless the UK QB and center have a very...close relationship I don't think he's clapping while under center.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:41 am to
It can be called if it’s an RPO.
Posted by Shocco
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:57 am to
The refs yesterday were beyond terrible. I get so tired of Bama being watched like a hawk for penalties and nothing being done about the terrible calls.
Posted by RTRcdub
Member since Nov 2019
2560 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:11 am to
Calling Hill out of bounds in his TD run and Scott’s (I think it was Scott) TD catch incomplete was infuriating, especially when they gave Kentucky a first down off an incomplete pass that led to their only offensive TD.
Posted by UhOhOreo
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:15 am to
UK was under center, so it was a legal move to clap
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:31 am to
Posted by YStar
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:36 am to
He clearly grabbed #73 (Kid used to be a reserve for us) and pulled him in keeping the LB clean to make the play
Posted by Amarillo Tide
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Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:48 am to
I used to be a Texas HS refereee (and Texas is one of the few states that uses NCAA rules) and what Hubbard did is technically a penalty. IIRC, the rule doesn't differentiate between whether the QB is in a shotgun formation or under center.

The penalty on Faga was weak as hell. I have never, ever seen that called on a defensive lineman.
Posted by FoTownBam
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:10 pm to
quote:

Bigger thing was their coach getting a penalty called on 4th down for a first down after the play was over for clapping before the snap.

Yes that was horrible. They let the coach talk them into a penalty. What quarterback uses the slap when he’s under center? That crew should be run off
Posted by FoTownBam
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

I used to be a Texas HS refereee (and Texas is one of the few states that uses NCAA rules) and what Hubbard did is technically a penalty.

Does Texas not use common sense though for when the quarterback is under center and the defensive player is clearly celebrating?
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
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Posted on 9/13/26 at 12:17 pm to
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That’s another thing…they can’t retroactively enforce defensive Delay of Game…but yet they did.

That’s the whole reason we had to run 4th and 31 because AU safety was clapping and caused our Center to snap it early. And Saban argued for 10 mins and nothing was done about it because they couldn’t retroactively enforce it


A Tennessee LBer did the same thing in the 2022 screw job game. But it was overshadowed by the 20 other bullshite calls and "missed" calls.

I dread playing in Knoxville again as the last two trips there resulted in some serious home cooking for the Viles.
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