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Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:46 pm
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21218 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:46 pm
Does anyone else see how absolutely terrible the concessions are at BDS? I know they let church groups and travel ball teams run them to raise money but the people are completely inept. Recently I’ve been to Auburn and Miss State and they had people hustling to get people taken care of but at BDS we have people with IQ’s at room temp levels running concessions stands.
Posted by 11and18gggchamp
Tuscaloosa, Al
Member since Jan 2021
1124 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 8:54 pm to
I agree!! It makes for unnecessary long waits... but to be honest, I think that is just about any service industry....people don't move and hustle anymore....slow...
Posted by gumpinmizzou
Member since May 2017
2800 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:33 pm to
You can order directly to your seat with the Waitr app. Has worked great for me all year. They gave out qr codes for it at the Southern Miss game.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
13079 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:38 pm to
It’s been jacked up for all three games - long, slow moving lines throughout the game. Much more so than previous years. Haven’t been to a stand this season because of the lines - those around me who go miss a significant portion of the game and often come back complaining. Listening to folks, it sounds like some stands have cups with ice, some have only bottled drinks. Some only have hot dogs, some only have Conecuh dogs, some only have pizza. Some lines are card only, some are cash only. Whatever the vision was, it does not appear to be working through the first three games, at least for the stands around me. If you go to a game and want concessions, my advice would be to go in early and take care of it before the game.

Surely Greg has this on his radar after the digital tix become less of an issue. Lots of $ to be had with a quick and easy trip to a concession stand.

Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
3147 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 9:48 pm to
Y’all can’t sit through a ballgame without eating? Eat before you get there, geesh.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14646 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:00 pm to
My whiskey needs a mixer and what’s a Bama game without a stadium dog or Denny dog or whatever they’re calling em now
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40848 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:30 pm to
Lines were extremely long and slow.. worse than I remember
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62764 posts
Posted on 10/3/21 at 10:33 pm to
I worked concession stands at BDS, but it's been a number of years.
A huge issue is the way the greedy UA handles the stands
They allow all of these service gropus, bands, etc handle them which is good, but at the time years ago, they made it even worse for the groups.
You get to keep 10% of the gross sales.
But, they started nickel and diming the groups:

*charged the groups cost for cooking too many hot dogs.

*take sales tax out of your 10% cut


In the end, you end up working a bunch of people for hours, netting less than minimum wage per worker.
This post was edited on 10/3/21 at 10:38 pm
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 10:17 pm to
It was bad. I got my drink before the game, but lot of folks around us spent nearly an entire quarter waiting in line. I figure it’s the same issue as what the fast food industry is dealing with regarding worker shortages.
Posted by BamaDude06
GOATville20
Member since Jan 2007
3475 posts
Posted on 10/4/21 at 11:11 pm to
quote:

In the end, you end up working a bunch of people for hours, netting less than minimum wage per worker.


And this is why places do this. It's a legal way for them to often pay less than minimum wage. I use to work in a similar setup at the Hoover Met for Barons games. We got 10 or 15% depending on the day. Our organization gave it up right after I graduated high school because they had such a struggle getting enough people to work because so many times you worked your a** off for very little money.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 8:19 am to
quote:

And this is why places do this. It's a legal way for them to often pay less than minimum wage. I use to work in a similar setup at the Hoover Met for Barons games. We got 10 or 15% depending on the day. Our organization gave it up right after I graduated high school because they had such a struggle getting enough people to work because so many times you worked your a** off for very little money.



Sounds like the UA Athletic Dept needs to figure out how to make concessions work an attractive job from a $'s standpoint. No more complicated than that. They can darn sure afford it.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:06 am to
quote:

In the end, you end up working a bunch of people for hours, netting less than minimum wage per worker.


And this is why places do this. It's a legal way for them to often pay less than minimum wage. I use to work in a similar setup at the Hoover Met for Barons games. We got 10 or 15% depending on the day. Our organization gave it up right after I graduated high school because they had such a struggle getting enough people to work because so many times you worked your a** off for very little money.


So this is another part of the problem. The organization commits at the beginning of the year. Let's say it's a little league organization with 200 parents. It can be extremely difficult to get all of the parents to agree to work, or maybe some back out at the last minute. Halfway through the season, the organization is struggling to find enough people to work Saturday. Then parents start bitching at the coach for committing them to work. So now the University may be left in the lurch with no organization to work the stand.

I know a little about this because I knew of a high school sports team that worked concessions for the Titans. So here's what it's like for those parents. They have to get up early, fight traffic to get to the game. And maybe they aren't parking near the stadium, so they have to deal with shuttles or whatever. They have to put in the hours of work. And they aren't getting paid themselves...they're doing it to raise money for uniforms or whatever the team needs. And you guys who have played on high school teams know exactly what I'm talking about here...maybe 25% of the parents do all the extra work to fundraise, while 75% never do anything.

Those are the people working concession stands.

Using non-profits can be very effective. But Byrne needs to get very hands-on here to fix this, and it sounds like maybe he is. Maybe devote some athletic department employees to monitor and score the groups' efficiency, and then pay a bonus to those groups that score high. There has to be an incentive for them to work harder and do better. And there has to be better training.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 10:09 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Sounds like the UA Athletic Dept needs to figure out how to make concessions work an attractive job from a $'s standpoint. No more complicated than that. They can darn sure afford it.


That's only part of it. They have to figure out a way to effectively train them, and then to monitor them.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:30 am to
The University bids the concessions out to a concession business. For many years the Yarbrough Cos had the Alabama games in Tuscaloosa and Bham. Pretty sure they dont have the bid anymore. Back in those days, they had a lot of people on payroll at the games. but also used the volunteer groups.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:34 am to
The stadium has just gotten too big for them to still have these fundraising organizations running some stands. I love my kids, but I'm not giving up every Saturday shlepping peanuts and Cokes for 5 hours, not to mention the parking, traffic, etc. I'd rather just stroke a check to the team.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 10:52 am to
quote:

The stadium has just gotten too big for them to still have these fundraising organizations running some stands. I love my kids, but I'm not giving up every Saturday shlepping peanuts and Cokes for 5 hours, not to mention the parking, traffic, etc. I'd rather just stroke a check to the team.


That pretty much mirrors the points I was making.

You want to provide the very best concession stand experience? Try as much as possible to model it after the Mercedes Benz Dome, in every way. We just spent how many millions on some stadium renovations? Did that include several more concession stands, capable of serving more people faster?

How about soda refill stations, just like the Mercedes Benz dome? Imagine what that could do. I just paid $6, or whatever, for a souvenir cup. Give me a refill for free that I don't have to wait in line for again.

How about small kiosks on wheels that have only bottled sodas and water on ice, so that someone who just wants a drink doesn't have to wait behind people feeding a family of four?

There are lots of good ideas out there, and Greg Byrne is a smart guy. My suggestion is to just study what the M-B Dome does, and try as much as possible to do it exactly the same way.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 10:54 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72184 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:04 am to
Not sure if it has been discussed here yet, but Greg Byrne did send out an email stating that concessions would be dealt with to improve things.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:18 am to
Couldn't tell you the last time I bought anything at the concessions stands. What are prices like these days? Last time I did I seem to remember a Coke was around $10 in a massive cup. An amount of Coke I would never completely drink.
Posted by Ghost of Barnwell
central alabama
Member since Dec 2013
1773 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:24 am to
As a former "band parent" I have worked concession stands for football games and its as organized as the goat breeding festival in Lee county....no one really in charge and its a fire drill.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26958 posts
Posted on 10/5/21 at 11:53 am to
quote:

As a former "band parent" I have worked concession stands for football games and its as organized as the goat breeding festival in Lee county....no one really in charge and its a fire drill.



Having been involved in that sort of thing myself, I know exactly what you're talking about. At least with some high schools where the band runs it, it's the same organization every year, and ideally the veteran parents can train the new ones. They have more of a vested interest, because it really is their concession stand. I don't think the groups at BDS have that same sense of ownership.

The M-B Dome is known for excellent food, excellent service, and reasonable prices. The last time I went, I think hot dogs were $2 or $3. Drinks $2 with free refills. A ChickFilA sandwich costs the same as in a store. And virtually no waiting, ever. The experience was similar at Jerry's World in Dallas at the Michigan State game in 2015, although the prices may have been a bit higher. Lots of stands, great service, and no waiting, ever.

It's not rocket science. Arthur Blank wanted to create the same experience as at The Masters, so he did. He wasn't interested in making a billion dollars off concessions. The University doesn't need to make a huge profit off concessions. Sure, there may need to be some significant costs in renovations to create more concession stands. But other than that, after paying for inventory, refrigeration, and staff, they don't need to make a profit. They're already making millions everywhere else.
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