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re: Coach Cig, "You cant be a nice guy with my job"

Posted on 1/11/26 at 11:32 am to
Posted by UASports23
Basketball School
Member since Nov 2009
26396 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 11:32 am to
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Did Curt not have to piecemeal his roster two years ago?


If you’re comparing Alabama vs Indiana. Bama had double the amount of transfers out than Indiana.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21026 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 11:42 am to
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Simple math will tell you that's less than 2 yards rushing per quarter in the last three games of the year.

That’s an OL issue.

There were two elite level starters on the OL, one guy who was a TF who was functional and two who were backup caliber.

One of the two elite level guys was hurt late to the point of being backup caliber and two of the backup level guys were hurt making them completely nonfunctional.

We are right now seeing a complete rebuild of the utter failure that was the 2021-2024 Saban era OL from a talent ID and development standpoint.

Pre transfer portal / NIL OLs didn’t get built or ruined in a year, it happened over 2-3 classes where you were finding talent (good or bad), developing or not developing it and like a tree farm seeing results years in the future.

Our lines the last two years were not a result of mistakes by KD, who only had one functional cycle to address it, but of years of decline and rot at the end of the Saban era. If blame can be assigned to KD for this year it would be for a failure to either get existing guys (WF, KD, KP and JR) to a better weight to execute the scheme or replace them last year with people who were game and scheme ready.

What happens on the OL over the next two years is on KD and the boosters who have to pay to find, develop and retain elite caliber OL players who fit our scheme.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63227 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 12:25 pm to
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I don’t want to give the national championship trophies back but I guess it’s going to take a generation of fans dying out before this program moves on from Nick Saban. If the expectation is that his process will be hovering over everything connected with Alabama football forevermore, it’s going to destroy the program.


Same trap we fell into after Bear Bryant. The fanbase has to come to terms with the reality that Saban's system doesn't work in today's game anymore. The players who followed Cig to Indiana and have been coached by him for 5-6 years aren't going to be back next season.
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13797 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 1:21 pm to
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Coaches can only get away with what Cig is saying here if they have donors willing to out pay everyone.

He won't be able to sustain
I think he can.. Mark Cuban is funding Indiana's NIL and he'll go bankrupt if it means buying a championship.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5099 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:03 pm to
The true believers are never going to hear you. I simply am refusing to engage with them anymore. Chicken won’t institute an ignore list like other forums because he likes this place being a food fight but I have the stubbornness to create one of my own and the self discipline not to be baited into breaking it.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63227 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 2:18 pm to
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The true believers are never going to hear you. I simply am refusing to engage with them anymore. Chicken won’t institute an ignore list like other forums because he likes this place being a food fight but I have the stubbornness to create one of my own and the self discipline not to be baited into breaking it.


I'm the same way. Once someone has proven to me he/she cannot admit he/she's wrong and won't accept truth when it's told to him/her, I move on from that person and limit my engagement with him/her as much as possible. It's a good skill to practice, even outside of this forum.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10614 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 3:33 pm to
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You act like this team represents you or something. They don't. You are still just you at the end of the day.


Yeah its pretty sad. They are clearly projecting
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23609 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 5:44 pm to
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Saban's system


Cig runs Sabans system. I think most of us believers believe it takes the same thing it always has to win. Cig is hardnosed and that type of coaching will never go away. Will there be less people coach that way? Yes but those coaches who aren't hardnosed will be get dominated like Bama did, like Oregon did.

We are a pac12 team now.
Posted by big d 18
Member since Dec 2021
1344 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 7:15 pm to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63227 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:07 pm to
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Cig is hardnosed and that type of coaching will never go away. Will there be less people coach that way? Yes but those coaches who aren't hardnosed will be get dominated like Bama did, like Oregon did.


We'll see. If he's able to replicate this moving forward, maybe you're right.

I think it has more to do with the fact that he's coached most of these players for half a decade. You won't see that anywhere, even at Indiana, moving forward. NIL has removed that possibility.
Posted by BbyB
Member since Jan 2024
110 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:52 pm to
Maze was soft... waived by the Steelers and went to the arena league... being good in college doesn't always transition to grown man football. He was a decent kick returner in college, but couldn't cut it in the NFL. He just wanting to be relevant.
Posted by BbyB
Member since Jan 2024
110 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:54 pm to
Maze is the soft one...waived by Pittsburg and relegated the the Arena league...lmfao
Posted by BbyB
Member since Jan 2024
110 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 8:59 pm to
Why would he come here?! He might come in 5 years if the wheels fall completely off and the Tide has 5 losing seasons in a row... he likes the challenge of a fix-er-upper
Posted by BbyB
Member since Jan 2024
110 posts
Posted on 1/11/26 at 9:11 pm to
Yeah... that's what we need... smaller lineman so we can finesse our way to 65 yards rushing per game... gtfo with that mess. Always talking "scheme" this, "scheme" that... just line up and get an f'n yard... can't do it because we are soft from the top down
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5219 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:05 am to
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Kaylas first week he said something like "coaches are gonna get to go home at a decent hour and spend time with their families." lol



You do realize that one of Cignetti's signature pieces of how he runs his program is shorter practices and being efficient with time and coaches are not expected to work nights or extended hours. Practices are only live three times a week for about 90 minutes with two days as limited walktroughs.


This is Cignetti's full on-field practice week.

Monday: 35-minute walkthrough
Tuesday: 1 hour 35-minute practice
Wednesday: 1 hour 35-minute practice
Thursday: 1 hour 35-minute practice
Friday: 25-minute walkthrough


ETA: If you don't belive me, hear it from the man himself

This post was edited on 1/12/26 at 9:27 am
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5099 posts
Posted on 1/12/26 at 9:10 am to
The crowd you’re talking about knows only toughness and run the damn bawlll Pawlll and Saban is God. Everything else is beyond their cognitive abilities.
Posted by MySabanPlease
Member since Sep 2023
245 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 11:48 am to
You can still practice shorter and less physical in order to remain fresher for games and still be a very physical team. This part is what you will be seeing a lot more teams doing and I think Bama should as well. Makes since with lack of depth.

The coaching at Bama since 1958 (I would say that’s long enough to establish a trend) has been dominated by 3 coaches. Bryant. Stallings. Saban. 3 different coaches in style. BUT the one common trait they all have is a larger than life persona. A man that walks into a room and commands respect before they even open their mouth. Almost a Godfather like presence.

This is the type of coaching personality that has been able to ‘handle’ everything that comes with being the coach at Alabama. Again I’m not talking about coaching ability, style or otherwise. You can debate that. I’m talking about the type of man himself before he ever puts the whistle around his neck.

The other coaches: Perkins, curry, debose, franchione, price, Shula….none of them had that persona, that presence, and all failed.

I believe KD is a really good coach. My only concern is that his persona is like the latter group and that has never sustained at Bama in my lifetime. Not saying it can’t. But Bama seems to be at its best historically when a ‘Godfather’ persona is on the sidelines.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56132 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 12:00 pm to
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You do realize that one of Cignetti's signature pieces of how he runs his program is shorter practices and being efficient with time and coaches are not expected to work nights or extended hours. Practices are only live three times a week for about 90 minutes with two days as limited walktroughs.



Was about to post the same thing. The DeBoer quote posted is literally the exact same thing Cignetti pushes.


but I'm sure PowHound will come back in here and tell us that we are wrong, or that its beside the point, or some other dumb deflection.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12020 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 12:06 pm to
You aren't going to do a lot of good on good live tackle practicing when depth is not a possibility anymore. The problem is that works out fine in the NFL because HS and college coaches put them guys through all the tackling drills and live practices to develop good technique on the core aspects of their position.

How is that supposed to work for college teams with no depth but also far less accumulation of experience than professional teams? I'm not sure Cig has figured anything out other than "have a super experienced two-deep."

Posted by Refrigeraider
Member since Jan 2026
18 posts
Posted on 1/13/26 at 1:34 pm to
I think it's going to be interesting to see if Cignetti can keep this thing going. I believe he caught lightning in a bottle this year.

Mendoza is a really smart guy. And athletic. Not that many of those out there. He keeps them out of negative plays and doesn't seem shakable. That's rare as well. And his receivers catch everything.

But how does Cignetti deal with an injury? He doesn't play that many guys in games on offense or defense.
How does he deal with getting his arse beat?
And it is going to happen. Eventually IU is going to go into a game half-cocked and get smoked. What's his response to that?

I am interested to see IU in 2026. My guess is they revert big time.
This post was edited on 1/13/26 at 1:36 pm
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