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re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition

Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:11 am to
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:11 am to
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Cobra...you been to Ghost Train yet?


I haven't, but I'd sure like to try it one day. Is it good?
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10360 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:18 am to
Thibodeaux wasn't going to sit and wait his turn. That along with previous comments he has made is why I said his temperament wasn't a fit for Bama.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10360 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:20 am to
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Ive seen the kid Christian Harris play in the State playoffs back to back years and this kid flows so naturally and also loves to hit. I say flow because you don't realize the ground he covers because he does it so easy. He can play anywhere on the field and would make a great LB,TE,SS,HB and will play LB & Mack wilson's spot at Bama. But his knowledge of playing WR,TE,S,CB will make him so valuable playing in the middle of the defense with coverage skills of a DB.


Some of us are underrating Harris. They gon' learn.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 12:20 am to
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Christian Harris

Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
12942 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 1:41 am to
Off topic but pff made a video on YouTube about the best pro prospect college qbs and ranked KJ Costello from Stanford above tua (along with 5 others) don’t know why but PFF really just doesn’t seem to like him at all.
Posted by Tider95
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 2:11 am to
Tua isn't particularly highly viewed by NFL scouts yet. Combination of size, his lingering injuries and I have seen multiple times from a variety of writers that Pro scouts view him as a needless risk taker who hasn't been punished for his bad decisions. PFF says they don't take that into consideration, but they do try and give an idea of what NFL front offices are looking for in players.

Whether or not we share those opinions, next season he will have significantly more snaps on film in an offense that hopefully Enos calls more consistently than Locks did. He will have his chance to convince a team he is worth a #1 pick.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 6:41 am to
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Honestly, and it super easy to say this now in hindsight, I think Bama knew they weren't landing KT well before today.


It appears this may have been the case with Clay Webb as well.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:00 am to
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Ive seen the kid Christian Harris play in the State playoffs back to back years and this kid flows so naturally and also loves to hit.
I say flow because you don't realize the ground he covers because he does it so easy.
He can play anywhere on the field and would make a great LB,TE,SS,HB and will play LB & Mack wilson's spot at Bama.
But his knowledge of playing WR,TE,S,CB will make him so valuable playing in the middle of the defense with coverage skills of a DB.


Yeah, Harris is a freak. I think he's the most athletic LB prospect in this entire class.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20098 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:01 am to
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he will have significantly more snaps on film in an offense that hopefully Enos calls more consistently than Locks did.


You can't blame Locksley for Tua refusing to throw checkdowns.

Our offense would be unstoppable if Tua would just take what he's being given instead of trying to force everything downfield and in the middle.
Posted by Carlton
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Member since Feb 2016
14766 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:45 am to
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"he said I want to be the big man on defense ", 
the one to put the defense on the map " 


Cliff Harris put the Oregon D on the map for a number of reasons. He should never get that twisted.

Let's be honest, weed and womem probably helped his decision as well . It is all good. Let's hope everything fell in place for Bogle.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:51 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:50 am to
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You can't blame Locksley for Tua refusing to throw checkdowns.

Our offense would be unstoppable if Tua would just take what he's being given instead of trying to force everything downfield and in the middle.


Tua was great at checking down early in the season. When the Heisman talk started heating up he checked down less and started forcing some passes downfield. But yes, I do think Locksley probably encouraged that at least to the degree of not strongly advising Tua do check down more, as earlier in the season. Locksley, too, got the stars in his eyes when the Heisman attention really heated up.

edit to say that I think the offense will in fact take what they're given in the upcoming game, as the Heisman is over, and the opponent won the award.

I also think Tua will have learned a great lesson from this season, that is to focus on the game, not the award.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:53 am
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:54 am to
This sounds like pure speculation. Where are you getting this about Locksley? You think Locklsey secretly didn't want him to check down? Had he taken his check downs he wins the heisman with those stats.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 7:57 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 7:59 am to


I guess you missed all the check downs early in the season. He was so good at it that Gary Danielson raved on and on about his total game.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 8:03 am
Posted by AjA77
Member since Aug 2015
1131 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:00 am to
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You can't blame Locksley for Tua refusing to throw checkdowns. Our offense would be unstoppable if Tua would just take what he's being given instead of trying to force everything downfield and in the middle.


The Heisman stuff got to him as OU game was prior to ours and he knew what the buzz was.
There were times he looked at Harris and Jacobs in the flats and still went down field.
So many times UGA drop coverage were like 5-7 yards away from our check downs.
The Kid took his shots down field and holding it to late also allowed the UGA pass rush more hits on him.
Now Our O-line played like shite to be honest and locksley blew the first red zone drive,
calling pass plays inside the ten after the runs were working.
I am glade saban instills team before individual it's why we had jalen there.
But truth be told tuna numbers on the year could have been so huge.
That the Murray having better numbers argument, would have not been there.
You figure minimum Tua left an extra 100 yards per game avg so your talking about 1,200 more yards plus scores.
As a bama fan I rather the Natty and a SEC win over UGA on there second home field.
But Tua needs to win this Natty and lift the one that counts and the team being mad about him losing it.
Maybe will have them focus for the defensive challenge.

This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 8:02 am
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:07 am to
Yes, what does this have to do with Locksley? Locksley was calling plays with open check downs later in the year, he just didn't take them. You said you think Locksley was not encouraging him to take them to win the Heisman with no evidence. He takes the check downs later in the year and he wins the heisman.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 8:09 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
31088 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:09 am to
It's amazing that folks around here know what's in the players' AND coaches minds...this has gotta be the best inside info board in the country!
Also, forget Thibodeaux!..he's history...let's get to the next man up.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 8:13 am
Posted by John Milner
Member since Jan 2015
7999 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:11 am to
You said you were an educator. Right?

So do you really have such a hard time following simple dialogue?

I wonder that because my comment was this...

"I do think Locksley probably encouraged that at least to the degree of not strongly advising Tua do check down more, as earlier in the season. Locksley, too, got the stars in his eyes when the Heisman attention really heated up. "

I realize you got pissed back in the preseason when I advised you how much better Tua was than Jalen, and I guess you're still pissed now. Well that's really tough.

This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 8:15 am
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:21 am to
I don't think I am having an issue here. Your bolded statement is exactly what I'm asking about. Why would you think that? There is no reason for you to believe that about Locksley.

As far as the Jalen thing is concerned you are being silly. The only timed I defended Jalen is when people attacked his character. You will notice that is when I have my longest discussions on here, when I believe people are unjustly attacking the character of others. I never said Jalen was better than Tua. You have been very strange about calling me mad when I disagree with you. I have a feeling you changed the U Mad Bro pic because people would pick up on something.
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 9:00 am
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20098 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:24 am to
If you think Locksley encouraged Tua to not take checkdowns then you should probably log off for a while.

Tua is Tua.

He wants to throw a homerun every down and that is what makes him so exciting... he has the unwavering belief in himself. It isn't Locksley making him this way, that has always been his personality.

He has to grow up though and we saw he was stubborn when he refused to throw obvious checkdown plays and kept forcing the ball.

That is what led to the second INT
This post was edited on 12/16/18 at 8:26 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
84411 posts
Posted on 12/16/18 at 8:26 am to
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John Milner



Take this shite elsewhere.

Only melting about recruiting is allowed in here.
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