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re: Class of 2015 Recruiting MEGATHREAD - Twilight Edition

Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 8:40 am to
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Jon Allen is my pick for breakout defensive player for the tide this year. I foresee big things this fall from him.



Our 2015 D-Line is going to be SCARY.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 9:05 am
Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:00 am to
Our 2015 team is going to be the best we've had under Saban.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:33 am to
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You were berating them when they were only stating facts. You indeed were coming across as bitchy.


Yes and I responded with facts. Hand isn't like Robbie, Robbie was almost 280 coming out and was always going to end up being a DT in a 4-3. He was warned about that. We also do have a problem with linemen being too damn big, even Nick Saban has spoken about that.

Now tell me why people are bitching at me for stating facts?

I'm not joining the "one minded" cult man sorry.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 9:34 am
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:39 am to
I'm not sure YStar is that far off. I'm beginning to think sometimes that if Derrick Thomas committed to Bama now, Saban and Cochran would blow him up to 285 and ruin him.

You can't tell me that our lack of a premier edge rusher was from lack of athletic talent over the last 8 years. I think it purely is a philosophical slant, and one of the two criticisms I have with Saban since he's been here.
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 9:40 am to
Upshaw is 6'2 271

Hand is 6'4 280


It is not that big of a deal. Dude could be 290 and still play DE/jack with his frame.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:19 am to
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Now tell me why people are bitching at me for stating facts?


I think you made good points, but it was the weird, cynical attitude that came along with your post that rubbed folks the wrong way.

Its all good.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:22 am to
8k
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20090 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Upshaw is 6'2 271

Hand is 6'4 280


It is not that big of a deal. Dude could be 290 and still play DE/jack with his frame.


Let's be honest here. Upshaw got his weight down to 270s after speaking with the NFL staff about what their expectations were. I remember at a point in time him being on Alabama campus around 290.

That is an issue, so much so Saban addressed wanting our players to be less thick and more quick.

These kids get evaluated and their huge, but lack speed, quickness. Which is something our conditioning coach is suppose to be getting the most out of them with.

More heavy weights, less reps to enhance strength/explosion and better monitoring of their diets.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I think you made good points, but it was the weird, cynical attitude that came along with your post that rubbed folks the wrong way.

Its all good.


Sorry man, I'm aggressive (and can be sarcastic) as hell. I don't mean to be on purpose.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:26 am to
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20090 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:28 am to
quote:

I'm not sure YStar is that far off. I'm beginning to think sometimes that if Derrick Thomas committed to Bama now, Saban and Cochran would blow him up to 285 and ruin him.

You can't tell me that our lack of a premier edge rusher was from lack of athletic talent over the last 8 years. I think it purely is a philosophical slant, and one of the two criticisms I have with Saban since he's been here.


I agree with you man.

I think Saban is trying to fix this, at least that is what he has been telling the recruits last year and this year.

This board just has some posters who haven't gotten on board that mentality. Bigger isn't always better.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 10:46 am to
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MagillaGuerilla


quote:

8k


Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:07 am to
The idea that dashawn hand has been "ruined" by scott cochran in a couple weeks on campus is completely retarded. If you thought a kid that was 6'4 260 as a senior in high school was going to stay that size, the problem is with your expectations.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:19 am to
Not to mention its kind of dumb to think that hand was ever destined to play jack or outside linebacker when he is in the same class as rashaan evans and christian miller, both of whom made abundantly clear that they were the jack and sam recruits for that class
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:37 am to
Oh, boy.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
20090 posts
Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:38 pm to
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The idea that dashawn hand has been "ruined" by scott cochran in a couple weeks on campus is completely retarded. If you thought a kid that was 6'4 260 as a senior in high school was going to stay that size, the problem is with your expectations.


No, what is completely retarded is your reading and comprehension skills.

Where did I say he ruined Hand? I specifically said if he is 270-280 we should make that his size ceiling.

If you don't know what the hell you're talking about then don't quote me and do us all a favor and shut hell up.


ETA: Then somebody will bitch at me for being aggressive when this dude way out of line.
This post was edited on 6/25/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:40 pm to
OG Darryl Williams is announcing tomorrow.

We never offered.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
:beatdeadhorse:
Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
Alabama
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/25/14 at 1:52 pm to
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YStar


Well, just let us know at what weight you would like him to be and we will relay it to coach Cochran .

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