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Can Bama Hold Off Clemson?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:08 pm
What does the Tide need to do to keep Clemson from stealing the throne as the top program in CFB? Any changes or just doing the same things better? Clemson is arguably already there (not quite but very close, IMO) but another title next year and it’s pretty much solidified.
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:37 pm to Globetrotter747
Hire Dabo before he's 100000% gorilla glue'd to CU
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:44 pm to Globetrotter747
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What does the Tide need to do to keep Clemson from stealing the throne as the top program in CFB?
Coach and play to the best of our ability each and every game. We do that, and nobody in college football can stand against us over time.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 2:52 pm to Globetrotter747
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What does the Tide need to do to keep Clemson from stealing the throne as the top program in CFB?
Pray that a team with a pulse eventually shows up on Clemson's regular season schedule sometime in the next decade.
Have to admit that we don't have a lot of room to talk with our schedule this year.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:04 pm to Globetrotter747
God damn this board needs to be cleaned up.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:07 pm to stomp
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Hire Dabo before he's 100000% gorilla glue'd to CU
Since that would entail being in need of a coach, do you suggest firing Saban?
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:17 pm to Globetrotter747
I think you've got it twisted. The real question is what does Clemson need to do to dethrone Alabama as the best in CFP.
And that's pretty simple - have continued success. Let's see them start #1 and finish #1 etc. Let's see them stay hungry while they are getting even a tiny bit of rat poison etc.
Because the last time they had this success, they made it to the playoffs and got handled pretty easily...by Alabama.
The entire thing with Saban/Alabama over the past years has been the consistency.
So I don't even know what the frick narrative you are smoking, because you've definitely got it twisted.
And that's pretty simple - have continued success. Let's see them start #1 and finish #1 etc. Let's see them stay hungry while they are getting even a tiny bit of rat poison etc.
Because the last time they had this success, they made it to the playoffs and got handled pretty easily...by Alabama.
The entire thing with Saban/Alabama over the past years has been the consistency.
So I don't even know what the frick narrative you are smoking, because you've definitely got it twisted.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:27 pm to Globetrotter747
How many things are wrong with this thread and OP?
Terrible, non-descriptive thread title.
Terrible OP, as you said nothing and postulated a banal, unnecessary question to the board, and created another thread about Clemson despite there being a perfectly good one to post in 4 threads under this one.
And lastly, your OP reeks of weakness and a step-child mentality. Bama is THE premiere blueblood CFB program in the country, and this is true because of dynasties on both sides of y2k and WW2. However we certainly cannot win them all, and congrats to another team for beating us a couple times of late. It changes nothing about any long-term narrative in CFB.
Bama straight embarrassed Clemons in the semifinals 2 years ago? What did they do? They went back to work and got better. What they didn't do was sit around mulling about throne stealing and other intangible, imaginary nothingness.
Globetrotter747, I mean no direct disrespect with this statement, but if your OP is a accurate representation of your approach to CFB and Bama fandom, I suggest you find a different team to root for. I would suggest a little stepbrother program like auburn, Mich St, or Oklahoma St. It would like fit you better, as you seem to be ready to throw in the towel at a moment's notice.
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Clemson
Terrible, non-descriptive thread title.
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What does the Tide need to do to keep Clemson from stealing the throne as the top program in CFB? Any changes or just do the same things better? Clemson is arguably already there (not quite but very close, IMO) but another title next year and it’s pretty much solidified.
Terrible OP, as you said nothing and postulated a banal, unnecessary question to the board, and created another thread about Clemson despite there being a perfectly good one to post in 4 threads under this one.
And lastly, your OP reeks of weakness and a step-child mentality. Bama is THE premiere blueblood CFB program in the country, and this is true because of dynasties on both sides of y2k and WW2. However we certainly cannot win them all, and congrats to another team for beating us a couple times of late. It changes nothing about any long-term narrative in CFB.
Bama straight embarrassed Clemons in the semifinals 2 years ago? What did they do? They went back to work and got better. What they didn't do was sit around mulling about throne stealing and other intangible, imaginary nothingness.
Globetrotter747, I mean no direct disrespect with this statement, but if your OP is a accurate representation of your approach to CFB and Bama fandom, I suggest you find a different team to root for. I would suggest a little stepbrother program like auburn, Mich St, or Oklahoma St. It would like fit you better, as you seem to be ready to throw in the towel at a moment's notice.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:27 pm to stomp
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Hire Dabo before he's 100000% gorilla glue'd to CU
This is laughable for so, so SO many reasons.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 3:52 pm to Vidic
No shite....some need to pull up their panties
Posted on 5/9/19 at 4:24 pm to prevatt33
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our approach to CFB and Bama fandom, I suggest you find a different team to root for
Yeah dude is a Clemson fan. When obvious fans of other teams are posting nothing but troll threads on a team board it might be time to get a mod that actually looks at this board more than once a day lol
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:03 pm to RolltidePA
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Have to admit that we don't have a lot of room to talk with our schedule this year.
We have plenty of room to talk compared to Clemson. We’ll play tougher teams in Nov & Dec than they will play for the entire regular season.
But Clemson is sharing the throne with us right now. They’ve won 2 out of the last 4, made the last 4 CFPs, and embarrassed us last season.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 5/9/19 at 5:39 pm to FairhopeTider
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But Clemson is sharing the throne with us right now.
They certainly are and have every right to. However, as a Bama fan who's tolerated the national media's "Bama fatigue" for several years now, it actually feels like Bama is getting purposefully ignored or even slighted, as everyone not a Bama fan is desperate for someone else to sit on the throne.
I listen to numerous CFB podcasts year round, and most national pundits are acting like Clemson is the greatest thing since sliced bread and is reinventing the concept of winning championships. Sure, they will admit that Bama is still the class of CFB, but if you talk about Clemson for 30 minutes and talk about Bama for 42 seconds, it really doesn't matter what you say. It kinda sucks to be a Bama fan sometimes - it's like talking about your team is offensive to some folks.
Having said that, our actuall football team is going to be uber fueled by these continued direct "slights" and I love it. Bama, The Hunter - coming to a stadium near you in 2019.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 9:02 pm to prevatt33
Let them wear the target this year. They won't play anyone that can beat them regular season besides Aggy, but that's OK. Forget them until the time comes, we have a tougher road than they have.
But should that time come, they won't be able to play that lack of respect, underdog card again. It'll be payback time and they are going to pay.
But should that time come, they won't be able to play that lack of respect, underdog card again. It'll be payback time and they are going to pay.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 5/9/19 at 10:41 pm to antibarner
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They won't play anyone that can beat them regular season besides Aggy
Honestly, Clemson has a habit, even in the last 4 years when they've been good, to lose to or nearly lose to an average team, most notably Syracuse and NCSt each in multiple years. If a couple of teams on their schedule turn out to be tough outs, it would not surprise me to see Clemson to drop a game in 2019.
That 2018 Clemson front 7 is gone, son, and it ain't coming back. I'm not saying that they'll turn into defensive doodoo, but they will take a marked and noticeable step back in 2019 on defense and especially in that front.
Also, it should be noted that Clemson was quite fortunate regarding injuries in 2018 and 2016, but that will always even out over time - no team is immune.
And so, while I respect Clemson for getting to the level they've gotten to, I will be the first to say that next year is a new year, and Alabama has literally nothing to fear from Clemson. They are good, but Alabama is still in the middle of the most dominant college dynasty since Wooden's Bruins, and the last thing we are is scared. We've got talent coming out of our buttholes and are hungry to boot.
We lost a ton defensively going into last year, and had an inexperienced coaching staff. It's frankly surprising we made it to the title game, all things considered. But nonetheless, last year was a down year, and many of us knew it would be.
So congrats, Clemson. You beat us in the title game when we were down, injured, and you had the best Dline you'll ever have. Well, we won't be down in 2019, and hopefully we won't get significantly injured - and somebody's gonna have to pay.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 5:14 am to prevatt33
Were it not for the Clemson td in the last second in 2016, we'd not even be having this discussion. For that matter, if the td before had been ruled a pick play, and more often than not it would be so called, the last second td would not have been only for show. Alabama 3 and outs in the game have been discussed to death. Just a f'ed up game.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 8:59 am to prevatt33
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and had an inexperienced coaching staff
This is my biggest concern. There is more experience this year but once again we had massive turnover. I feel like we have been resetting each year for the last 2-3 years in terms of coaching. Hopefully we have the right mix this time (and, if so, maybe they stick around together for 3-4 years). Of course we will just maul the teams with less talent but those 2-3 games where gameday coaching and scheme are going to matter, our guys need to be better.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 10:52 am to elposter
Have to agree with Prevatt above... the "Clemson" title is very weak and looking at the threads see the preceding post was "how will CU and Bama compare for 19" seems OP is obsessed with Bama since it would appear he is a CU fan...
But the entire CFB is obsessed with Bama... Last year's team was the weakest Championship team Bama has brought to the playoffs... (have to admit the Dunbar coached DL team that lost on the pick play was in the running). But, who cares about CU? They are in a weakassed conference (no one will give them a game) and have a weakassed schedule. They have all year to prepare for Bama and people are amazed they play so well????
With the addition of the new coaches, particularly Sunseri, Baker and Kelly... I feel very good about this year. Bama will be tested in several games and if they pull thru those, I look for them to smack CU's arse in this year's CG.
Talent glore on the O side, and the Dline, and DB's... RTR
But the entire CFB is obsessed with Bama... Last year's team was the weakest Championship team Bama has brought to the playoffs... (have to admit the Dunbar coached DL team that lost on the pick play was in the running). But, who cares about CU? They are in a weakassed conference (no one will give them a game) and have a weakassed schedule. They have all year to prepare for Bama and people are amazed they play so well????
With the addition of the new coaches, particularly Sunseri, Baker and Kelly... I feel very good about this year. Bama will be tested in several games and if they pull thru those, I look for them to smack CU's arse in this year's CG.
Talent glore on the O side, and the Dline, and DB's... RTR
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:06 am to RollTide66
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Last year's team was the weakest Championship team Bama has brought to the playoffs
On defense sure but the definitely not on offense which is half the team. So not the weakest team. That would be the 2014 team which had plenty of close regular season games meanwhile this team was being regarded as possibly Saban’s best team prior to the loss.
Also OP is a Clemson fan. He has a thread on the off-topic board in which he’s arguing Clemson is the best CFB team of all time.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:51 pm to prevatt33
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Honestly, Clemson has a habit, even in the last 4 years when they've been good, to lose to or nearly lose to an average team, most notably Syracuse and NCSt each in multiple years. If a couple of teams on their schedule turn out to be tough outs, it would not surprise me to see Clemson to drop a game in 2019.
Whether it’s by design or just a symptom of Dabo’s Coaching style, Clemson always starts the year playing below their standard. They get a few scares and/or a loss, reset, then hit their stride. If Syracuse stops them on 4th down last year, they may not have made the Playoff.
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