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Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10349 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:43 pm to
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Can someone please ban this guy/troll. He's obnoxious and getting on this old lady's nerves!!!


Well, go some place else. I won't stop commenting regardless of how it makes others feel.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19664 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:44 pm to
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Bryce's development was behind that of Tua and Mac when entering the NFL.


Yes and so is Milroe and Ty Simpson development and specifically because Bill O'Brien did nothing to actually develop our talent.

If you cam understand this why the constant hate for Milroe? He is a victim of coaching just like Ty and Bryce.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10349 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:50 pm to
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Yes and so is Milroe and Ty Simpson development and specifically because Bill O'Brien did nothing to actually develop our talent.

If you cam understand this why the constant hate for Milroe? He is a victim of coaching just like Ty and Bryce.


I'm not hating on Milroe. I will always pushback against criticism being labeled as hate. I wish Milroe well. I
do believe his skill set is too remedial for this level of football.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46106 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:50 pm to
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It seems very easy to gain admittance to this board, but I'm wondering how much endless, garbage, nonconstructive criticism you can heap on literally every part of the program before just being deemed a troll and getting banned


They are extremely hesitant to ban people, but I agree. It's really not difficult to see the difference between someone who has an honest, good faith opinion that a lot of people disagree with and some fricktard like Shaft who repeats the exact same nonsense over and over regardless of the subject matter.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10349 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:51 pm to
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They are extremely hesitant to ban people, but I agree. It's really not difficult to see the difference between someone who has an honest, good faith opinion that a lot of people disagree with and some fricktard like Shaft who repeats the exact same nonsense over and over regardless of the subject matter.


That's not how it goes here. I state my opinion and then people come for me personally. So, I come for them personally and restate my opinion. If you can't be honest STFU. I don't lie on anyone.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
15805 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:52 pm to
Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
2598 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 12:54 pm to
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It seems very easy to gain admittance to this board, but I'm wondering how much endless, garbage, nonconstructive criticism you can heap on literally every part of the program before just being deemed a troll and getting banned. I know the mods don't like to make a habit of it, but come on. Spamming every thread with Shaft's bullshite that adds literally nothing to the discussion has to warrant something.

Funnily enough, your post adds literally nothing to the discussion, too.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18090 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 1:00 pm to
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believe his skill set is too remedial for this level of football.


Remedial is a great word. He's a faster version of Jimmy Johns. Jimmy never got much look at QB because he was remedial. But he was strong and fast and good with the metric system.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16803 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 1:37 pm to
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Alabama Football Game Preview: Texas A&M

(TideTV 5 min Video)


The first highlight is a gorgeous RPO slant from Milroe to Burton.

Have we run a single RPO slant this year!?
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19664 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 1:42 pm to
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The first highlight is a gorgeous RPO slant from Milroe to Burton.

Have we run a single RPO slant this year!?



We legit have posters who claim we don't run RPO because Milroe doesn't know how to.

Not even joking.

That is how they rationalize why Tommmy Rees hasn't ran RPO. They have also said the same for us not running screens, quicks, etc.

Apparently Milroe forgot how to do all that since last year.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by HighTide_ATL
Member since Aug 2020
2239 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 1:48 pm to
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I state my opinion and then people come for me personally


Its more like 99% of your posts are you being hypercritical of our players or coaches

When that's all you have to offer, it's pretty easy to understand why people see you as just a hater and nobody really wants to be around one of those
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 1:49 pm
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1988 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 1:56 pm to
Oh, so you were going to have mercy on us all and shut up, but because someone verbally agreed with your intended course of action, now you’re not?

Your posts sound like the arrogant, bitter rantings of a very unhappy man. You splash your misery on all around you.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18090 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 1:59 pm to
He ran RPO with Buchner several times. Ive also seen Milroe make the wrong RPO read a few times.

Blake Sims didnt have the arm strength that Milroe has, but he was slick with the zone read. We havent used a lot of that with Milroe. There has got to be a reason, and you can blame Rees or Milroe, but we really dont know why.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 2:00 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 2:02 pm to
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We legit have posters who claim we don't run RPO because Milroe doesn't know how to.

Not even joking.



He knows "how to", he's just really bad at making the right read in a split second. John Parker noted repeatedly on the radio during the A&M game last year that we ran a ton of RPO stuff and Jalen made the wrong read - either on the give/keep or on a give/keep/throw - almost every single time. Being good at the RPO isn't just a given, and if you are bad at it and/or second guessing yourself, it can be downright disastrous.

I don't know why, don't know if he's improved or what, but I know for a fact that they were concerned about it last year and he proved their concern right when he played that full A&M game.

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They have also said the same for us not running screens, quicks, etc.


This part I think we should do more of. I assume we don't think our big slobbish OL can get out in space to block those plays. I don't really know. Seems like we should do more of it on early downs.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56039 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 2:03 pm to
Someone reported that Milroe is not good at making the right reads in RPO. It seems like an easy thing to get good at, but I supposed it is a bit of an art.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16803 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 2:12 pm to
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We legit have posters who claim we don't run RPO because Milroe doesn't know how to.


Well I made this gif as a reminder to them that Milroe has been successful (at least once) in the past running them.



ETA: SoG has questioned whether we don't run more RB screens because of the size and/or lack of mobility of our OL, but I also think we struggle with WR screens because our perimeter blocking so far has been atrocious. It's also tough for the RBs to break longer runs without downfield blocking from the WRs/TEs.

Hopefully the outside guys continue to improve in that area as the season goes on.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21258 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 2:23 pm to
It just seems like nearly every college QB, from walk-ons to 5 stars, can run this RPO stuff, but for some reason it's not in the playbook for Milroe. It seemed like a big part of Rees's style before he came here as well, so the lack of it is a mystery. And if the QB literally can't do it, it could be a reason why the playcalling looks so out of whack sometimes.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19664 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 2:24 pm to
The thing about football concepts is even if you are bad or slow at understanding something.. you get the reps to get better. You get the film study. You simplify the process picking specific players as keys.

Understanding and execution in fotball isn't some linear thing it sometimes take a different approach.

I just find it hard to believe this guy absolutely can't run a system he has in high school on the college level and this can't change or get better with reps, film study and more work toward this specific goal.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 10/6/23 at 2:27 pm to
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It just seems like nearly every college QB, from walk-ons to 5 stars, can run this RPO stuff, but for some reason it's not in the playbook for Milroe. It seemed like a big part of Rees's style before he came here as well, so the lack of it is a mystery. And if the QB literally can't do it, it could be a reason why the playcalling looks so out of whack sometimes.


Totally agree with you and with Ystar. I don't understand why the RPO thing either is still a huge issue for Jalen or the coaches are so scared to let him do it.

RPO is so standard for QBs at every level now that it's hard to imagine he can't get better at it. He's so damn talented for that specific play type that he doesn't even have to be great at it for him to be successful with it.
This post was edited on 10/6/23 at 2:28 pm
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