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Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:00 pm to
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Paul Roberts@PaulRobertsCuse
Wilson grad Luke Holman was offered $800k by one MLB team in the third round and then $700k by another team in that round. Holman turned down those offers which were below what he had expected to receive before the draft. The 6-4 righty is an Alabama commit.
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 7:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 7/12/21 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:08 pm to
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Right Field Ragers@BamaRightField
Best of luck to new head baseball of the Goshen Eagles, @ChandlerAvant! #RageOn #RollTide


Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:31 pm to
I read the article about the Holman kid. Sounded like they were having some regrets about not taking that $800K offer. He could still get selected and go but he’s not going to get that kind of money anymore.
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:52 pm to
Is it for certain Noah Miller will go pro?
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:54 pm to
Pretty sure he will
Posted by Bham Bammer
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 9:56 pm to
I’d be shocked if he didn’t. EXTREMELY rare for anyone picked that highly to not sign. Your best assume he’s gone.
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 7/12/21 at 10:03 pm to
Just hoping for a change of luck for the baseball team. We’ve not gotten many breaks for Bo.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:10 am to
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I read the article about the Holman kid.
I read that too. Indicated the kid wanted a million to sign (inferred otherwise he would go the college route). Got offered $800,000 and his ‘advisor’ told him to turn it down. Also said he countered, requesting $850,000 and the team moved on. Then turned down another team’s offer of $700,000 and started having second thoughts.

A week or so ago I posted a story that featured Brett Auerbach and detailed the (unglamorous) life of a minor league ball player. I do wonder what the tipping point ($ wise) would be to sign right out of high school and progress through the farm system to get to the big leagues vs going the college route. Wouldn’t SEC facilities, training and nutrition programs rival most anything the minors could offer?

Uncle Sam and state/local governments would get their “fair share” of the signing bonus (36-40% if google can be trusted). Then the advisor/agent could get a cut. How much of what was left would an 18 year old be willing to invest (and leave invested) for the future? Or set aside for college if things didn’t work out in baseball? How much would he want to use to not share a bedroom with a minor league teammate like Brett has to?

On the other hand, there’s no guarantee that going the college route first will get you there either. It’s a tough call.

Coach Bo is staying in touch and is selling him on the benefits of going the college route and making more down the road.

Hope he comes to peace with whatever the ultimate decision is.

Oh, and
Posted by Skybox_rtr
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:19 am to
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Just hoping for a change of luck for the baseball team. We’ve not gotten many breaks for Bo.


I think you should definitely consider this year a break for the team if that's what you'd like to call it. It's easy to lose any top 5 round draftee hopeful from the HS ranks and we just arguably kept 4 of the 5 of ours home if all stands pat between Hayslip, Clarke, Hess, and Holman. Miller was pretty much a shoe-in for the top 2 rounds after the year he had and just being the quintessential "toolsy" SS, so I never really thought he'd ever make it to campus anyways.

Hayslip, Clarke, and Hess are all top 100 guys by Perfect Game and the Cubs were willing to pay Holman a signing bonus of 800K, meaning they viewed him as a top 100 overall draftee, so it's safe to put him in that range as well.

All that said, that's about as big of a success for an up and coming program like ours that you could ask for. Just getting 5 top 100 type players to sign is one thing and then presumably getting 4 out of those 5 to make it to campus. On top of all the other guys we have coming in and coming back, I haven't been this excited about Alabama Baseball in a long time.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 7:48 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:40 am to
Good for Chandler. I’ve known him since he was 3 feet tall. I was really good friends with his big brother when we were kids. His mom was always a coach too. I’m sure he’s glad an opportunity came up near home.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:33 am to
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On top of all the other guys we have coming in and coming back, I haven't been this excited about Alabama Baseball in a long time.


Without having to go into all of the caveats of injuries and who will play where and yadda yadda yadda, what are our realistic expectations? Are we still looking at a probable ceiling of 4th or 5th in the West, winning 30ish+ games and a 2 seed in a regional?
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:39 am to
That would be my expectation going in. Hope it is better but would have been nice with our talent coming in and having CP on the mound
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:21 am to
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Without having to go into all of the caveats of injuries and who will play where and yadda yadda yadda, what are our realistic expectations? Are we still looking at a probable ceiling of 4th or 5th in the West, winning 30ish+ games and a 2 seed in a regional?


Yes, but we're now squarely back in the mix of SEC NCAAT programs and every year from now through the next 3 the roster is going to get more talented.

We finally got the roster back to a point where most of the starters were SEC caliber players last year. Next year the roster should have SEC quality depth with some actual elite talented freshmen and some upperclassmen who are talented enough to be legitimate all-conference level players (Denton, Diodati, Jean, Williamson, Hamiter).

One of the biggest things, IMHO, will be whether the younger pitchers who struggled this year can improve and give us quality innings in relief, mid week and back end of weekends (Giles, Eddington, Hitt, Green).
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 9:24 am
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Skybox_rtr
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Member since May 2021
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:10 am to
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quote:
Without having to go into all of the caveats of injuries and who will play where and yadda yadda yadda, what are our realistic expectations? Are we still looking at a probable ceiling of 4th or 5th in the West, winning 30ish+ games and a 2 seed in a regional?


Yes, but we're now squarely back in the mix of SEC NCAAT programs and every year from now through the next 3 the roster is going to get more talented.

We finally got the roster back to a point where most of the starters were SEC caliber players last year. Next year the roster should have SEC quality depth with some actual elite talented freshmen and some upperclassmen who are talented enough to be legitimate all-conference level players (Denton, Diodati, Jean, Williamson, Hamiter).

One of the biggest things, IMHO, will be whether the younger pitchers who struggled this year can improve and give us quality innings in relief, mid week and back end of weekends (Giles, Eddington, Hitt, Green).


Yeah I agree with all that SummerofGeorge said. The roster is only getting more talented even with the loss of CP for presumably the rest of his Bama career. Depth will be much better in the pitching staff this next year, which will be a godsend.

As for the SEC next year, I still see Arkansas, Vandy, Tennessee, Florida, and Miss St. as a head above us, but I believe we are in squarely in that next group of teams with LSU, South Carolina, Ole Miss, and maybe Georgia. We have the chance to be one of the best, if not the best, of that group if our pitching is as good as we believe it has the potential to be.

So, in essence, yes to your question.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by Bear88
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:07 pm to
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Depth will be much better in the pitching staff this next year, which will be a godsend.


In a nutshell , this will determine everything . We like to fuss about hitting but we will hit enough to be competitive if the pitching is there
Posted by Alabama_Fan
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:26 pm to
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Alabama Pro Updated@BamaProUpdates·
Tyler Ras is selected by the Colorado Rockies in Round 14 (410th overall).
Posted by Skybox_rtr
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:35 pm to
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Alabama Pro Updated@BamaProUpdates·
Tyler Ras is selected by the Colorado Rockies in Round 14 (410th overall).


Really curious if he's planning to definitely sign or if it'll depend on contract negotiations with the Rockies. Would really love to see him back next year. With him and Jean presumably penciled in as weekend starters if he comes back, it would be a nice problem to have lots of other talented guys vying for that Sunday spot and the weekday starter role.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Skybox_rtr
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Member since May 2021
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:07 pm to
Looks like Holman got drafted with one of the last few picks of the 20th round. Curious to see if the Blue Jays have enough money left after they sign their top 10 round guys to make an offer that Luke would consider taking. For our sake, I obviously hope not.


This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 2:22 pm
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