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re: Alabama's style of offense can be elite but it has some horrible lows
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:36 pm to mrbroker
Posted on 3/25/23 at 11:36 pm to mrbroker
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JQ late was not even looking to kick it out. He had around 6 blocked at the rim. I think he made one layup in the last 7-8 min. And the fact he was not benched tells me Oats was ok with this style of O
This! That wasn’t the offense that got us there. Not once did I see the guy slashing to the rim look for the kickout to the open man for a 3. And Brandon Miller may be the best player to play for Bama but he totally disappeared when we needed him to shoulder the team and carry them. Just very disappointed still.
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Posted on 3/26/23 at 3:19 am to phil4bama
One thing I dislike about basketball is that the refs dictate the game. One set of refs call it one way another set call it totally different. The next game sdst has they'll get different refs and watch if they don't get called more for the body bumping they do all game long.
Posted on 3/26/23 at 5:54 am to bigpapamac
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all of a sudden our elite defense turned into trash.
Because the refs told SDS that the game was being changed from Basketball to Rugby and they forgot to tell us
Posted on 3/26/23 at 10:04 am to Pastor Mike
SDSU had to know that teams that got rough with us were successful. It looked like an 80s NBA game out there at times and the officials let them thug it up.
Instead of crying about no calls you have to learn to play through it. Now if they don't let it go both ways it's time to be raising hell but you have to give as good as you get.
Instead of crying about no calls you have to learn to play through it. Now if they don't let it go both ways it's time to be raising hell but you have to give as good as you get.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 8:41 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Oats had better find some shooters in the portal.
Oats had shooters, they all went into a tailspin after the media storm hit.
Sears and Griffen were hitting >40% mid season from three.
Those two just continue their level of play and Bama is probably beating UCONN in the championship.
Not any Bama fans want to hear it but the scandal impacted the team badly and expecting a 40 year old, much less a 18-22 year old not to feel it when the national media is screaming that you are a bunch of murderers is not realistic.
Just going into the tournament as a #1 seed favorite to win it all is enough to shut some kids down.
It’s not the system, players had good looks. Players have to make plays.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:18 pm to tide06
The offense is not the problem. Tired legs or pressure likely was. Name the last time a team won the NCAA tournament championship with only making 3 threes in one of their S16-NC games (might be able to survive 1st 2 rounds against bad teams, but not late rounds)?
Nobody has an offense that can make up for that shooting ineptitude and is also good enough to win the whole the thing. The offense wasn’t the problem, the shooting less than 25% was.
It’s hard to stay loose before big games, and not tighten up under pressure. If I’m being honest, I’m not sure our football coach or basketball coach have mastered that skill yet. They are both very good at being prepared and have elite intensity, but keeping a team relaxed heading into a game doesn’t seem to be their strength.
Nobody has an offense that can make up for that shooting ineptitude and is also good enough to win the whole the thing. The offense wasn’t the problem, the shooting less than 25% was.
It’s hard to stay loose before big games, and not tighten up under pressure. If I’m being honest, I’m not sure our football coach or basketball coach have mastered that skill yet. They are both very good at being prepared and have elite intensity, but keeping a team relaxed heading into a game doesn’t seem to be their strength.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:33 pm to BamaBravesPackers
To add to that, there are some coaches that seem to get guys to play even better than their “capable” by getting them to believe they are Michael Jordan. If you’re at a mid major, that’s what you want…a coach constantly getting the team to believe they are better than their collective talent. We’ve all seen teams play way over their head, sometimes even in a sustained stretch (see TCU in football, George Mason basketball, etc.).
Our coaches generally focus on teaching, accountability, player responsibility, etc., and spend a lot of time “warning” the team of what can happen if they’re not performing to the standard. It’s not the cheerleading style of we’re awesome, we’re going to win because we’re better and out working them, let’s have fun and just play. There’s positives and negatives to both styles, but the 2nd style tends to bring more confidence and relaxation as the players seem less focused on avoiding a disappointment and truly feel the coach believes in them.
I’m glad we have intense coaches that are very hard workers and very well prepared. I wish it didn’t come at the cost of having more fear of failure when they step on the court/field, but there’s always trade offs. Hopefully Oats can figure out the late shooting woes and learn to have the guys relaxed for big tourney games.
Our coaches generally focus on teaching, accountability, player responsibility, etc., and spend a lot of time “warning” the team of what can happen if they’re not performing to the standard. It’s not the cheerleading style of we’re awesome, we’re going to win because we’re better and out working them, let’s have fun and just play. There’s positives and negatives to both styles, but the 2nd style tends to bring more confidence and relaxation as the players seem less focused on avoiding a disappointment and truly feel the coach believes in them.
I’m glad we have intense coaches that are very hard workers and very well prepared. I wish it didn’t come at the cost of having more fear of failure when they step on the court/field, but there’s always trade offs. Hopefully Oats can figure out the late shooting woes and learn to have the guys relaxed for big tourney games.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:38 pm to antibarner
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They have not shot the ball well in the latter part of the season and this game topped any of those games.
Yep. Even they Maryland game was not a good shooting game.
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:41 am to BamaBravesPackers
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To add to that, there are some coaches that seem to get guys to play even better than their “capable” by getting them to believe they are Michael Jordan. If you’re at a mid major, that’s what you want…a coach constantly getting the team to believe they are better than their collective talent. We’ve all seen teams play way over their head, sometimes even in a sustained stretch (see TCU in football, George Mason basketball, etc.). Our coaches generally focus on teaching, accountability, player responsibility, etc., and spend a lot of time “warning” the team of what can happen if they’re not performing to the standard. It’s not the cheerleading style of we’re awesome, we’re going to win because we’re better and out working them, let’s have fun and just play. There’s positives and negatives to both styles, but the 2nd style tends to bring more confidence and relaxation as the players seem less focused on avoiding a disappointment and truly feel the coach believes in them. I’m glad we have intense coaches that are very hard workers and very well prepared. I wish it didn’t come at the cost of having more fear of failure when they step on the court/field, but there’s always trade offs. Hopefully Oats can figure out the late shooting woes and learn to have the guys relaxed for big tourney games.
I guess this sort of answers some questions that I had regarding why we seem to play tight on offense when our coach is supposedly letting everyone feel free and confident to shoot threes. One has to wonder how much it stresses guys to know that so much of the offense hinges on hitting threes.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:36 pm to LovetheLord
And I still say if Nate is going to play this style, he needs to recruit a sharpshooter every cycle; the guy that comes off the bench and drains a few buckets to fire up the team and staunch the bleeding when the shite is hitting the fan. UConn's Joey Calcaterra comes off the bench and hits a couple of quick 3's and they are off to the races. You've got to have that guy. We never have under Oats.
Posted on 3/29/23 at 10:54 pm to phil4bama
Here are the shot charts of the 2 best teams in the NBA.
Here is us vs LSU
Here is us vs LSU
This post was edited on 3/29/23 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:32 am to CCTider
Can you post the shot chart of us vs SDSU? I’ll wager it looks very different.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:37 am to phil4bama
Misread your post my bad.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 1:46 am
Posted on 4/2/23 at 6:54 am to BamaBravesPackers
I feel offense was a problem. We had so many turnovers because blocks... blocks which could have been avoided if Nate would incorporate a floater or a pull up shot right at the rim.
If he drilled the floaters and pull-ups near the rim SDSU (and other rugby teams) wouldn't have such an easy time disrupting us because their bigs wouldn't just have to sit at the rim waiting for us to come to them.
If he drilled the floaters and pull-ups near the rim SDSU (and other rugby teams) wouldn't have such an easy time disrupting us because their bigs wouldn't just have to sit at the rim waiting for us to come to them.
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