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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)

Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:32 am to
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He was being asked to run the offense and be the primary ball handler when he isn't a point guard in the slightest.


Oats brought him here to play offense like Herb. He is going to be a primary ball handler in his Junior and Senior seasons if he is still here. He has some obvious PG skills, just needs to tighten up his handles a bit as he plays a little too loose with the ball.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:34 am to
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Oats brought him here to play offense like Herb. He is going to be a primary ball handler in his Junior and Senior seasons if he is still here. He has some obvious PG skills, just needs to tighten up his handles a bit as he plays a little too loose with the ball.


Yup. He had a nice fake pull-up pass to KAH who wasn’t ready for it.
Posted by wm72
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:36 am to
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Of all the stats last night, I think my favorite is Darius Miles took eight shots in nine minutes



I would have thought Miles took 15 shots last night. He just dribbled up and took a 3 a few times and didn't really let the subs run much offense. He definitely has a very high upside though. Sure that's one reason Oats complained about the play in the last 8 or so minutes in his post game.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:40 am to
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Yup. He had a nice fake pull-up pass to KAH who wasn’t ready for it.


Yeah, I think Miles has shown good vision, passing ability and anticipation. He's still raw, but tons of upside there.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:41 am to
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Yup. He had a nice fake pull-up pass to KAH who wasn’t ready for it.


Miles has some skills. He just looked like he was in a hurry and the game was moving fast for him, which is understandable for a freshman who hasn't played much. Oats has turned Herb into a quality player on the offensive end. Not just a non-liability, but an actually good player. Miles is further along on a lot of stuff now than Herb was after a couple of seasons of college ball. He has a bright future IMO.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:50 am to
So the Committee is gonna release their official 16-team “1st Bracket” on February 1st. If we win against MSU, Kentucky, and @Oklahoma, the question won’t be if we’re on there, it’ll be how high
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 10:51 am to
Miles’s skill set reminds me of freshman Shack. Lefty, above average 3pt shooter, quick release, competent ball handler, but not really a primary.

But those skills come with a Herb Jones frame! It will be fun to watch Oats get to develop him.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 10:55 am
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
8048 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:13 am to
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Shiiddddd gimme a Top 10 ranking now baws



Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:15 am to
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So the Committee is gonna release their official 16-team “1st Bracket” on February 1st. If we win against MSU, Kentucky, and @Oklahoma, the question won’t be if we’re on there, it’ll be how high


We are better than all those teams and I'd be shocked if we don't win at least two. I just want to see us grind out a win or two against solid competition when we aren't hitting from deep.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16684 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:15 am to
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So the Committee is gonna release their official 16-team “1st Bracket” on February 1st. If we win against MSU, Kentucky, and @Oklahoma, the question won’t be if we’re on there, it’ll be how high


We are better than all those teams and I'd be shocked if we don't win at least two. I just want to see us grind out a win or two against solid competition when we aren't hitting from deep.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:15 am to
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Wow
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:15 am to
Herb, by the way, is playing at a super high level.

He was great offensively last night, and the defense is just ridiculous. There was one sequence where he helped on a driver, cut him off, and then dropped off and managed to take away two passing options.

I get the sense you'd see more of that kind of thing if you re-watched games and kept an eye on him.

Not to mention, he took it to Watford individually. Let him know about it a few times too.

I think he should get serious SEC player of the year consideration if we win the conference.

The numbers aren't really there offensively, but on the other hand most of the good teams in this league are pretty balanced and don't really have big time scorers (outside of Thomas for LSU).

Edit: Petty probably deserves a look too.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 11:21 am
Posted by DLev45
Member since Aug 2018
732 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:28 am to
Herb is our MVP, without a doubt. And I agree he should be the SEC POTY. Right now, he is the best player on the best team in the conference.

He is the 2nd best defensive player behind Pons, but then comes to the other end and plays point guard on the best offense in the SEC.

Herb's per-40 stats in conference:
PTS: 21.4
FG: 7.2/14.2 (50.9%)
3pt: 1.3/2.6 (50%)
FT: 5.7/7.0 (81.5%)
REB: 8.3
AST: 3.9
STL: 3.1
BLK: 1.8
TO: 4.4

Petty also has an argument.

Petty's per-40 stats in conference:
PTS: 22.3
FG: 8.3/13.8 (59.7%)
3pt: 5.0/8.8 (56.5%)
FT: 0.8/1.0 (80%)
REB: 6.7
AST: 2.3
STL: 1.3
BLK: 0.2
TO: 1.9

Petty v. Herb per-40 in conference
PTS: Petty +0.9
FG: Petty (+1.1 FGM / -0.4 FGA) +8.8% FGM
3pt: Petty (+3.7 3PM / +6.2 3PA) +6.5% 3PM
FT: Herb (+4.9 FTM / +6 FTA) (+1.5% FTM)
REB: Herb +1.6
AST: Herb +1.6
STL: Herb +1.8
BLK: Herb +1.6
TO: Petty -2.5
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 11:38 am
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
Member since Jun 2011
39991 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:38 am to
I think the rapid development of Josh Primo has been a real key to this run. Kid oozes talent and is letting it show now. Really all of the guys have gotten a lot better individually since they starting trusting their teammates to knock down open looks. This team is a far cry from the one we saw against Stanford
Posted by bamabkj
Member since Dec 2015
737 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:48 am to
Yeah I'm excited about Primo. Looks like he could be a stud once he gets more experienced
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
17250 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:50 am to
I would lean Herb, but Petty's shooting numbers are just absurd
Posted by pmacattack
Member since Oct 2016
6808 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:50 am to
I agree and hope Oats can hold onto Primo for a 2nd year to ease the loss of our seniors
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
6629 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 11:55 am to
Just a reminder. We were up by 43 at one point last night. FOURTY THREE!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:08 pm to
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I agree and hope Oats can hold onto Primo for a 2nd year to ease the loss of our seniors



Bring Primo and JQ back and the roster next year is loaded to the gils

PG - JD Davison (FR)
SG - Jaden Shackelford (JR)
SF - Josh Primo (SO)
PF - Juwan Gary (SO)
C - Charles Bediako (FR)

6th - Jahvon Quinerly (JR) (G)
7th - Keon Ellis (SR) (G/F)
8th - James Rojas (SR) (F/C)
9th - Keon Ambrose-Hylton (SO) (F/C)
10th - Alex Tchikou (R-FR) (F/C)
11th - Darius Miles (SO) (G/F)
12th - Langston Wilson (JR) (F)
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 12:10 pm to
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