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re: 2018 Depth Chart Released
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:49 am to tider04
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:49 am to tider04
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I'd like to see Waddle as the PR at some point this year for two reasons. Firstly, I don't like having a starting DB in an already thin and inexperienced secondary getting that much extra exposure to an injury. Secondly, I'm ready for a game-changer at PR again. While Diggs is fine, Waddle seems electric. Saban probably just needs Waddle to get more comfortable in practice fielding kicks so we don't end up with unnecessary turnovers. Hopefully by week 3-4 we can move from Diggs to Waddle.
I would recommend lowering our expectations for Waddle as a PR. He may be an all-timer, but he may not. I remember Deion Belue was the craziest PR I’d ever seen coming out of HS.. when he finally made it to UA, I’m not sure he ever returned a single punt.
No one could have called Eddie Jackson being an elite PR.
Lots of guys dominate it in HS. Waddle did. To be special at it in college, you’ve gotta have a little something extra. Let’s give Jaylen some time to see if he’s got it.
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Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:52 am to eric4UA08
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I would recommend lowering our expectations for Waddle as a PR. He may be an all-timer, but he may not. I remember Deion Belue was the craziest PR I’d ever seen coming out of HS.. when he finally made it to UA, I’m not sure he ever returned a single punt.
No one could have called Eddie Jackson being an elite PR.
Lots of guys dominate it in HS. Waddle did. To be special at it in college, you’ve gotta have a little something extra. Let’s give Jaylen some time to see if he’s got it.
Quality post, founded on logic and reason, that cautions against over-hyping a Bama player. This may not be well-received on this board.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 9:58 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Boz who is starting at QB Saturday
Tua has been given the majority portions of reps. If we go off of that it's Tua. However, you never really know what Saban will do to throw a wrench in something.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:01 am to eric4UA08
I think its the switch from being able to get away with running east / west a bunch, even going backwards, and running around HS opponents whereas in college (especially NFL) you really need to get north / south as quickly as possible and look for the creases.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:05 am to RollTide1987
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Arenas was the exception for return men, not the rule. I don't think there has been a more dangerous or explosive punt returner in college football this century.
I was all set to bring up David Palmer, but then I realized technically he was from the last century.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:08 am to prevatt33
P,
Don't bring logic in here. You know the drill.
Don't bring logic in here. You know the drill.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 12:49 pm to prevatt33
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I think he's one of the single best athletes on our roster and a heckuva ball player
Not trying to start an argument here, but where does this come from? He takes a long time to get up to speed and honestly looked borderline slow returning punts last year. I’m sure the long speed is there but the acceleration and change of direction looked nonexistent.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 1:11 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
The fact that he's listed as a starting cornerback tells me that he has acceleration and change of direction ability.
In all honesty, the guy has been jerked around for two years "experimenting" with positions. If we'd just put him somewhere and left him he'd probably be established by now.
In all honesty, the guy has been jerked around for two years "experimenting" with positions. If we'd just put him somewhere and left him he'd probably be established by now.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 1:21 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Not trying to start an argument here, but where does this come from? He takes a long time to get up to speed and honestly looked borderline slow returning punts last year. I’m sure the long speed is there but the acceleration and change of direction looked nonexistent.
No worries.
Diggs, since he arrived on campus, has been purported to be an incredible athlete. He also never redshirted, and stepped on campus immediately and got on the field. He could have played either offense or defense. To my eye when he's been healthy, he's obviously an incredible athlete, and I base this mostly on his play on defense, not punt returns.
From his RollTide Biography:
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Ranked among top defensive back recruits coming out of Maryland ... a versatile athlete, saw time on both offense and defense while returning kickoffs and punts
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One of the Tide’s top athletes who saw time in various roles as a freshman ... played on offense and defense while also returning kickoffs and punts throughout his first year with UA ... made the shift to strictly the defensive side of the ball as a sophomore while resuming his return duties
LINK
Diggs has had some nagging injuries at times, but he's simply one of the best athletes and best players on the team.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:00 pm to eric4UA08
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I would recommend lowering our expectations for Waddle as a PR.
I don't have any crazy expectations. I'd just like a guy there who's actually a weapon and a threat to make a big return on occasion. It's been a while since we've had that. And this isn't based off anything Waddle did in HS. This is based off of what our insiders are saying our coaching staff has observed in practice. Apparently our coaches think Waddle is going to be special, with a capital S. We'll see.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:01 pm to prevatt33
quote:He seems slow and not quick to me.
My opinion is diametrically opposed to yours on Diggs, and I think the bolded portion above is particularly crazy. I think he's one of the single best athletes on our roster and a heckuva ball player.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:22 pm to eric4UA08
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Deion Belue was the craziest PR I’d ever seen coming out of HS.. when he finally made it to UA, I’m not sure he ever returned a single punt.
In fairness, he was never healthy. Couldn't even practice but played through the pain for games.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:30 pm to ReauxlTide222
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seems slow and not quick to me.
I would bet he has a 4.6 forty or so but he has that elite size going for him and he apparently works hard and has mastered the playbook. Listening to Saban, it sounds like he is our best CB.
I really worry about our secondary against Louisville Saturday. Had it not been for Saban recruiting his arse off and basically delivering us two five star corners we would be much worse off.
I do have confidence in our guys. We will find out a lot about them against Petrino. Petrino is an offensive wizard but I think Saban knows a couple things about defense and teaching DB's.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 2:43 pm to Commander Data
I he ran a 4.6, he wouldn't play corner at Bama, and definitely wouldn't be corner #1. He'd be a safety.
I honestly don't understand at all how a person could watch Diggs move and think he's slow or not an amazing athlete.
I honestly don't understand at all how a person could watch Diggs move and think he's slow or not an amazing athlete.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:00 pm to prevatt33
Menzie ran a 4.7 at the combine and started for two years. Diggs tested at 4.55 as a freshman. He doesn't have to run a sub 4.5 to be successful. Last year our best statistical CB Wallace ran close to a 4.7.
Here is a link to Diggs forty time: LINK
We have corners on the roster that run a 4.4 but they aren't as good as Diggs right now. Diggs should be a tackling machine too.
Here is a link to Diggs forty time: LINK
We have corners on the roster that run a 4.4 but they aren't as good as Diggs right now. Diggs should be a tackling machine too.
This post was edited on 8/28/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:13 pm to prevatt33
I also think Diggs is an amazing athlete and football player.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:24 pm to Commander Data
Its gonna be a learning curve for the dbs for sure - A stout running game sustaining drives and controlling the TOP will hopefully help them out while they get their feet under them in the early parts of the season / sec play.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:34 pm to Sneaky__Sally
being longer armed and taller at CB can help with slower 40 times...quickness is a little different though...but Diggs is a great athlete. I remember some freshman/sophomore CBs that stunk and then were all world at the end of their careers.
Posted on 8/28/18 at 3:38 pm to tider04
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I would recommend lowering our expectations for Waddle as a PR.
He looked pretty good in the scrimmages so I dunno?
Posted on 8/28/18 at 10:40 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Bamainsider
As you guys saw on the depth chart, true freshman Ale Kaho is right behind Dylan Moses at the WILL position. A source close to the program, tells me that Kaho is a straight badass and while he's still a little behind in terms of terminology, he's ready to play and will play sooner rather than later.
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