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Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:37 pm to Bear88
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:37 pm to Bear88
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The 4 highest-ranked champs get a bye while other 8 play 1st-round games on campus.
The next round damn well better be on campus too. There’s not a chance in hell I’m going to 4 straight garbage arse neutral site games.
Even in basketball where you only need 15K to fill an arena and no watches until the tournament, lots of tournament games are played in front of pathetic crowds.
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:37 pm to Bear88
Am I the only one here who likes this?
If they do it right and give the top four byes and home field advantage in the round of eight, your looking at a huge extra home game. And, you'll have 6 at large teams as opposed to effectively 1.
Interest in college football will absolutely catch fire from coast to coast. Every conference championship will be chalked full of meaning. And that spills over into every game that affect teams shot at the conference championship or at an large bid.
The season doesn't become less meaningful. It is exponentially more meaningful for most teams.
I think it's great. And while I have no sympathy for inferior Pac 10 or Big 12 teams sitting home, I do want to raise the profile, prestige and money bestowed on college football.
That will mean all the more glory for the Tide, who will win more, not fewer national championships under the new system, all other things being equal.
If they do it right and give the top four byes and home field advantage in the round of eight, your looking at a huge extra home game. And, you'll have 6 at large teams as opposed to effectively 1.
Interest in college football will absolutely catch fire from coast to coast. Every conference championship will be chalked full of meaning. And that spills over into every game that affect teams shot at the conference championship or at an large bid.
The season doesn't become less meaningful. It is exponentially more meaningful for most teams.
I think it's great. And while I have no sympathy for inferior Pac 10 or Big 12 teams sitting home, I do want to raise the profile, prestige and money bestowed on college football.
That will mean all the more glory for the Tide, who will win more, not fewer national championships under the new system, all other things being equal.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:41 pm to RiverCityTider
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Am I the only one here who likes this?
I’ll reserve judgement. I think it’ll probably be better than the current system. The current system killed the good of the bowl system without providing much good from a playoff system. CFB interest seems at an all time low.
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Interest in college football will absolutely catch fire from coast to coast. Every conference championship will be chalked full of meaning. And that spills over into every game that affect teams shot at the conference championship or at an large bid. The season doesn't become less meaningful. It is exponentially more meaningful for most teams.
We’ll see. Will an USC-UCLA game for a 12 seed matter after the 12 seed gets stomped several times in the playoff? I think the assumption that just a team getting in will create interest is flawed. The games have to be competitive. Right now, they wouldn’t be.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:51 pm to RiverCityTider
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Am I the only one here who likes this?
I mean as an Alabama fan I like it because it almost 100% assures a spot every year for the foreseeable future.
But I think it’s wholly unnecessary and is obviously a money grab with little to no concern for the fans. Not that I think they ever cared about the fans. The chances of a 5-12 seed ever winning it all are pretty small.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:51 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Possible unintended consequence: the death of the conference championship games. Why should the B1G, SEC, and ACC, etc. risk their #8 ranked team (Florida, or Northwestern, or Miami) getting blown out by Alabama, Ohio State, or Clemson, thus knocking them out of the playoffs? Better to remove that game and get 2 teams in guaranteed, and possibly sneak a 3rd in.
And if you're #1 or #2 going into the last week or two of the season, you've got a lot less incentive to give 100% and play dinged up starters instead of resting them for the playoffs. That's all well and good if you're playing Ga Southern, but what if it's Auburn? And imagine the uproar if a Ga Southern did the impossible and beat a blue blood because said blue blood was resting their starting QB and RB and MLB?
Will you guarantee the G5 a spot? Will players sit out the first round or any round of the playoffs to protect their NFL futures? I know you can say the same thing now, but that extra game could make a big difference to some kids. LOTS of questions, and possible unintended ramifications. They need to think this thing through carefully.
And if you're #1 or #2 going into the last week or two of the season, you've got a lot less incentive to give 100% and play dinged up starters instead of resting them for the playoffs. That's all well and good if you're playing Ga Southern, but what if it's Auburn? And imagine the uproar if a Ga Southern did the impossible and beat a blue blood because said blue blood was resting their starting QB and RB and MLB?
Will you guarantee the G5 a spot? Will players sit out the first round or any round of the playoffs to protect their NFL futures? I know you can say the same thing now, but that extra game could make a big difference to some kids. LOTS of questions, and possible unintended ramifications. They need to think this thing through carefully.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:52 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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The next round damn well better be on campus too.
According to this I don’t think so unless you are 5-8.
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 2:59 pm to RiverCityTider
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Every conference championship will be chalked full of meaning.
Yes but it is the six highest ranked conference champions. I would imagine a 2or3 loss PAC 12 team may still be ranked ahead of a G5 league but you never know I guess
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:01 pm to CrimsonBoz
I'm not a fan of byes, but that's my only complaint.
I'd prefer either 8 or 16.
I'd prefer either 8 or 16.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:03 pm to Bear88
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According to this I don’t think so unless you are 5-8.
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Pretty disgusting if true. It’s a continuation of stealing the biggest games and tens of millions of dollars from college towns.
I personally will never attend a quarterfinal at a neutral site unless we haven’t been in a decade or just happen to be there.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:04 pm to phil4bama
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the death of the conference championship games. Why should the B1G, SEC, and ACC, etc. risk their #8 ranked team (Florida, or Northwestern, or Miami) getting blown out by Alabama, Ohio State, or Clemson, thus knocking them out of the playoffs? Better to remove that game and get 2 teams in guaranteed, and possibly sneak a 3rd in.
I believe this is why they’ve added in a qualifier that you have to win a conference to be top 4 and get a BYE.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:06 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Pretty disgusting if true. It’s a continuation of stealing the biggest games and tens of millions of dollars from college towns.
If the BCS and current playoff systems have taught us anything it’s that college football is never going to sever ties with the bowl games, especially the big marquee ones.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:09 pm to The Spleen
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If the BCS and current playoff systems have taught us anything it’s that college football is never going to sever ties with the bowl games, especially the big marquee ones.
Yep. Pretty shocking what pull those games must have. It seems they are all going to be playoff matchups now.
I certainly hope Byrne never schedules a regular season neutral site again if the season already ends with 4 straight. Can you imagine paying every year to do Atlanta, New Orleans, Dallas, Los Angeles in one month? There’s gonna be some pretty shitty attendance at these games several years in especially from the top teams that make it every year.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Worse, you have less than a week to make travel arrangements to those places. During one of the busiest air travel months in the year.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I wonder if after the 1st round the winners are re-seeded. Under a normal bracket the No 1 team would play the winner of 8/9 and No. 4 team would play the winner of 5/12. Lets say 12 beats 5. So now does No. 2 get the easier path by playing 12 over No 1 who has to play either 8 or 9?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:22 pm to PCRammer
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I wonder if after the 1st round the winners are re-seeded.
I prefer this, but it probably won’t be. I imagine they’ll try to make the bracket a thing like in CBB.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:33 pm to 14&Counting
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But can they ever realistically catch-up?
If they can't now an expanded playoff isn't going to help them. It will make it harder.
You're going to end up with a token G5, token Pac-12, and 10 teams from the other 4 conferences.
Bowls are done. They'll either be incorporated as playoff games or shut down further limiting exposure for those teams that need it to get their brand out.
As others have already pointed out, you'll probably see a regular season game dropped from the schedule by the P5. You'll also see no more Mercers on the 11 or maybe 10 game regular season schedule. That may sound good, but how many of those programs are going to shut down without that additional revenue - and every time one of them dies interest in the game dies a little along with it.
In terms of what's good for the sport, there's noting to like about a 12 team playoff at all.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:42 pm to JustGetItRight
High school has a playoff, D2 and D3 have playoffs, NFL has playoffs. And they don't seem to have very many of the problems being presented.
The last few years no one had given a crap about bowl games and if it was not one of the top 4 teams, there was a good chance players wouldn't even play and you get bowl matchups like Florida vs Oklahoma this year. They need to do something to make it better and meaningful.
The last few years no one had given a crap about bowl games and if it was not one of the top 4 teams, there was a good chance players wouldn't even play and you get bowl matchups like Florida vs Oklahoma this year. They need to do something to make it better and meaningful.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:51 pm to Remiden
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High school has a playoff, D2 and D3 have playoffs, NFL has playoffs.
All of these levels don’t have the unique characteristics of FBS.
High school is supposed to be just local kids. The NFL has tons of rules in place to artificially make parity. FCS, D2 and D3 have little or no scholarships, and the same programs dominate those every year anyways.
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The last few years no one had given a crap about bowl games and if it was not one of the top 4 teams, there was a good chance players wouldn't even play and you get bowl matchups like Florida vs Oklahoma this year. They need to do something to make it better and meaningful.
I agree with this. I think the good of the bowl system was lost the second they went to a playoff. I think people may be trying to hold onto something that’s already gone.
A legitimate argument can be made that CFB shouldn’t have left the BCS. The BCS era was unquestionably more entertaining than the playoff era has been to date. I don’t see much reason to defend the current system though.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:54 pm to CrimsonBoz
Sounds good. Tell us who and where to play and we'll be there.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
Are you planning on attending all these neutral sites? I know you and many other boarders attend many of the games like myself.
I think getting the family to 4 neutral sites in a month is going to be untenable. That’s my only major issue with this proposal.
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