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re: 12 Team Playoff
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:06 pm to TheNameIsDalton
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:06 pm to TheNameIsDalton
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 1:39 pm to Cobrasize
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The worst of this is people arguing that all conference champs deserves a spot in. So that means even the 8-6 MAC champ in 2019 gets in over 10-2 PSU, UF, Wisc, Bama, etc.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:05 pm to Robot Santa
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So theoretically a team could play 17 games now?
This is my beef. The beauty of CFB is the ridiculously low sample size. We all know that App ain't beating Michigan 90/100 times, but they rolled their 91-100 and we all have to live with it. That's fricking awesome. This is not baseball. Its not about reducing error range to find the most mathematically sound determination of who is "better". It's an impossible thing to chase. There is no way that we could ever play enough games to get a reasonable sample size.
All it will do is increase the number of injuries we see and make money, largely for entities that we don't give a shite about.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:22 pm to CrimsonBoz
So dumb. There's not a single team in the 5-12 range since the playoffs started that had any chance of running the table in a tournament.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 2:46 pm to The Spleen
12 is too many. I like 8 bc two of the best teams could be from same conference or same division . Also helps Bama chances of making it every year
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:46 pm to Bear88
How do we justify increasing the amount of games, when everyone is already screaming that “the system” is taking advantage of the student athletes?
It may be what fans and media want, but shame on people who are looking out for players if they allow this to happen.
If they want more playoffs games and teams, cut out some regular season and conference championship games.
It may be what fans and media want, but shame on people who are looking out for players if they allow this to happen.
If they want more playoffs games and teams, cut out some regular season and conference championship games.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 4:57 pm to hnds2th
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they want more playoffs games and teams, cut out some regular season
Very easily can be done . I am for cutting out the Western Ky , NEW MEXICO ST type games anyway . Proves nothing and a chance to get injured . Gives backups time I guess
Posted on 6/9/21 at 10:42 pm to Bear88
With 12 there would be bye weeks to get to 8 so the 12 really isn’t the top teams playing anyway. The top 4 get a bye, the 5-12 slug it out. So in reality you are getting what you want, just another week of watching someone else other than Bama.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 7:47 am to hnds2th
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It may be what fans and media want
It's about money, and nothing more. Ignoring all the Title IX implications, but it's ridiculous that people will claim there's not enough money to financially compensate the players. Look how much coaches are being paid, look how much the SEC gave each school following a Covid impacted season, look how much ESPN is getting, look at how much the bowl committees are getting. This is simply a way for teams that had no chance of winning a 4-team playoff to make the playoffs so their coach can get an additional bonus for making the playoffs, the bowl committees to make more money by charging more for a ticket to a playoff game, and ESPN to make more money via with ad revenue. Don't believe the line that they're doing this for the fans. That's potentially 3 additional games fans would have to pay premium prices to attend, not to even mention traveling to go to the games.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:07 am to The Spleen
12 is 4 too many. Over 8 should never be considered. Meh.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 8:48 am to Bear88
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they want more playoffs games and teams, cut out some regular season
Very easily can be done . I am for cutting out the Western Ky , NEW MEXICO ST type games anyway .
No, it can't be done easily at all. Not at all.
The problem is that you're thinking of it as a fan of one of the elite teams that would benefit.
If you expand the field to 8, 12, or 16 teams, there are still 80-100 teams who will never sniff the playoffs in your lifetime. Not even in your children's lifetimes.
Why should the Wake Forests and the Purdues and the MTSUs and the FAUs of college football give up the revenue of the 11th or 12th game just so fans of the elite 10-20...the LSUs and Georgias, for example, have a better chance of getting in the playoffs?
How do you sell 80 schools who won't get in even a 16 team playoff in 100 years on the idea of cutting games? It can't be done.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:01 am to McGregor
12 team playoff? when you wont do whats necessary to play your way in, just whine at the top of your lungs. the squeaky wheel gets the grease, always. all those kids that were taught that the only thing needed to get what you want is to pitch a fit, have grown into fit pitching adults. they have been well trained in the trigger words of manipulation, fair, equality. well why dont you do what the ones making it every year do, NO! you give me what i want, NOW! i'll bash you on social media and espn! you will give me what i want, or else!
smh... didnt saban and others say this is exactly what would happen? i'm all for our current set up. if you are not willing to do the necessary things to get into the top 4, thats on you, not the system.
smh... didnt saban and others say this is exactly what would happen? i'm all for our current set up. if you are not willing to do the necessary things to get into the top 4, thats on you, not the system.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:11 am to BamaGradinTn
Yeah there is zero chance of a reduction in games ever happening. This is all little more than a knee jerk reaction to the number of players sitting out of major, but non-playoff, bowl games. It's a monkey's paw scenario waiting to happen though, because 5 of those 12 teams (3-4 of the additional 8) are inevitably going to come from the SEC every single year and people are going to lose their minds over it.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 9:11 am to BamaGradinTn
We played for numerous years with an 11 game schedule
I am not so sure mid majors or G5 won’t be separate in the not too distant future
For the record I don’t care if they cut them or not. I am for expansion to 8 teams though . 12 is too many . I also think it would help SOS too bc teams would be more willing to take a game that could be tough and not be penalized as much for a loss.. ADs are starting to take notice of empty seats vs the MTSU types now
I am not so sure mid majors or G5 won’t be separate in the not too distant future
For the record I don’t care if they cut them or not. I am for expansion to 8 teams though . 12 is too many . I also think it would help SOS too bc teams would be more willing to take a game that could be tough and not be penalized as much for a loss.. ADs are starting to take notice of empty seats vs the MTSU types now
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 10:16 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:23 am to Robot Santa
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the additional 8) are inevitably going to come from the SEC every single year and people are going to lose their minds over it.
That is one of the reasons I am for it . They may let the occasional CINCY or UCF teams in who have a great year but the majority will be P5
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:27 am to Bear88
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We played for numerous years with an 11 game schedule
I remember 10.
There is literally zero incentive for 75% of the 128 FBS teams to cut their schedule back to 11 games.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:41 am to BamaGradinTn
I agree but the MTSUs shouldn’t tell the the BAMAS, OSU, LSUs what to do either . I didn’t read it all but Boz said it only calls for more game for top seeds so it can be worked out. If not they wouldn’t propose it
Herbstreit says it is being discussed moving to 11 games … not sure how reliable he is though
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Herbstreit says it is being discussed moving to 11 games … not sure how reliable he is though
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This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 10:57 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 10:56 am to Bear88
I don't think programs like MTSU are what would cause an issue with scheduling. It's the programs who aren't top 10, but are also capable of having top 10 type seasons. Think Wisconsin, Oklahoma State, Iowa, etc. If they go 11-1 on a 12 game schedule how does that compare to a team like Alabama or Clemson dropping two rent-a-win games and going 9-1, and more importantly how does it affect seeding.
This is all just theoretical of course. No fricking way Alabama or Clemson drop those rent-a-win games that are worth millions of dollars to their athletics programs and local economies.
This is all just theoretical of course. No fricking way Alabama or Clemson drop those rent-a-win games that are worth millions of dollars to their athletics programs and local economies.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/10/21 at 11:39 am to Robot Santa
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Think Wisconsin, Oklahoma State, Iowa, etc. If they go 11-1 on a 12 game schedule how does that compare to a team like Alabama or Clemson dropping two rent-a-win games and going 9-1,
Those are P5 schools. They will all be on the same page as far as number of games go whatever that number ends up being
Posted on 6/10/21 at 12:47 pm to Bear88
Looks like this is the recommendation with details worked out later
Announcement this afternoon supposedly . I guess it works for DII and IAA so maybe it will work out but that sounds like they are set at 12
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Sources tell me & @ByPatForde that the CFP working group is recommending a 12-team playoff: 6 highest-ranked conference champs & 6 at-large. The 4 highest-ranked champs get a bye while other 8 play 1st-round games on campus. Long way from done, but this is the recommendation.
Announcement this afternoon supposedly . I guess it works for DII and IAA so maybe it will work out but that sounds like they are set at 12
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 12:52 pm
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