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re: Why the frick did we get rid of Richt??

Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:02 am to
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:02 am to
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It wasn't an overreaction at all, it was frustration that we were playing the exact same with Richt


Can you triple down?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:16 am to
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It wasn't an overreaction at all



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frustration that we were playing the exact same with Richt

Pretty sure you don't know very much about football if you believe this to be true. Name the last time you saw a lot of in game adjustments that made a big difference in the game under Richt. I loved the guy and to date I'd argue that he might have been the best coach we ever had (sorry Dooley), but his last 10 years were not the same as the first five. Essentially, he failed to capitalize on the early hype as well as further removing himself from the thing that he's best at: working with the offense/QB. Hell, he even said as much in his closing presser.

Just to name a few big differences in play: offensive line actually opened up running lanes (did not happen in 2015, Chubb had a good chunk of his yards after contact), tight ends and WRs *very* involved in the blocking game as well, 50% 3rd down conversions in game 1 is pretty damn good, particularly when you're only giving up 38% on the defensive side. We weren't the most heavily penalized team and when we were it was pretty clear the coaches had a handle on it and got the guys settled back in to what they were supposed to be doing, rather than snowballing the same penalties over and over.

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I wasn't "doubling down" on a poor position. We came out and played better, and I admitted that, but overall we still didn't play great, and had a lot of areas of weakness, as Smart said himself.


Ultimately, while the matchup necessitated a somewhat boring gameplan and not a lot of splashy offensive trickery, we saw a *very* different product on the field and I think Smart's comments are just more indicative that he is not going to be complacent as we have seen happen in years past.
"It's never as good as it looks, and it's never as bad as it looks." = Stay focused, and control what is in your power to do so. Better, Better, never Best. Richt tried to go this route as well, the difference was there was not as much buy in.

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It didn't turn into a grammar contest, it started out and has remained a bunch of grown men calling a poster names, because that didn't agree with him.


A) Yes, it did, one that you lost repeatedly and still fail to see.
B) If you've spent more than 30 seconds on this site, you'd realize that it's 99.99999% people calling each other names... pointing that out is a futile attempt to "gain the high ground" when you are holding on to a tenuous position. Just let it go.

"I was wrong about this. I was right about Chubb. Back to even for now. Go Dawgs!" - This would have been an easy way to end this fustercluck of a thread.
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:21 am to
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"I was wrong about this. I was right about Chubb. Back to even for now. Go Dawgs!" - This would have been an easy way to end this fustercluck of a thread.


Exactly. A poster even credited you with the Chubb prediction...and he ate HIS crow. You should have done the same at about 830PM Saturday night.

ETA.
That poster was Sneaky Waffles:
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Except I started a thread five minutes after kickoff just for DrewDawg eating my crow.


That's how it's done ^^^
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:31 am to
Wow. What a nice thread.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 10:43 am
Posted by DrewDawg13
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:24 am to
It wasn't an overreaction, but keep posting gifs if it makes you feel better.

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Pretty sure you don't know very much about football if you believe this to be true.


This statement and the entire paragraph with it shows you didn't read my whole post.

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A) Yes, it did, one that you lost repeatedly and still fail to see.
B) If you've spent more than 30 seconds on this site, you'd realize that it's 99.99999% people calling each other names... pointing that out is a futile attempt to "gain the high ground" when you are holding on to a tenuous position. Just let it go.


No I didn't. When you change and add in a word to a statement, it completely changes that statement.

I realize this site is extremely juvenile, which I don't obsess over it like so many.

I wasn't wrong at the time I posted it. I have admitted several times they played better afterwards, but still didn't play that well. Smart has said that he was sick when he researched the game.

Chubb is great, we got the win which is all that matters. Let it go.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:32 am to
Then they rode back, but not the 600
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:24 pm to
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It wasn't an overreaction

So you would say that it was a justified reaction or an underreaction that not even through one game you're wondering why we got rid of the previous coach? Sure bud... you're the height of patience.

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This statement and the entire paragraph with it shows you didn't read my whole post.


I've read through the thread, though I have no desire to go back through every post. You continue to say the team played like shite. It wasn't even terribly accurate at the time you posted the initial thread, and yet still it became more and more wrong as the game went on. Just own it man... mistakes happen and you were emotional.

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No I didn't. When you change and add in a word to a statement, it completely changes that statement.


Except that it doesn't. I removed the word "old" and unless there were other edits made to that post, it doesn't change a damn thing. I only saw the comment once prior to the edit, but assuming that was the only change it really doesn't change the meaning, just adds clarity. You're literally the only one who doesn't understand that the sentence meaning doesn't change.

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I realize this site is extremely juvenile, which I don't obsess over it like so many.

Says the dude bitching that people are calling him names.

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I wasn't wrong at the time I posted it. I have admitted several times they played better afterwards, but still didn't play that well. Smart has said that he was sick when he researched the game.

You're not paying much attention if you think that isn't classic Saban page 3 of the post game playbook. It's part of the process. Yes there were mistakes, which is to be expected in the first game. UNC just made more of them (ie. not giving Hood the ball more often).

Buckle up young buck, it's going to be a long season for you if you can't make it through a game before wondering why Richt is gone.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17463 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:36 pm to
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Says the dude bitching that people are calling him names


It's probably safe to say that he has a safe space to run to...
Posted by RhodeDawg
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Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:38 pm to
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Buckle up young buck


There is exactly 0% chance Kirby comes out and poops rainbows and lollipops. His message will never waver. Improvement is constantly possible, expected, and required.

Fork meet crow then I'll get you a free sample.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 1:59 pm to
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It's probably safe to say that he has a safe space to run to...



If you knew where his "safe space" was, you'd laugh your arse off.



He'll RA this post
Posted by DrewDawg13
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 3:33 pm to
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So you would say that it was a justified reaction or an underreaction that not even through one game you're wondering why we got rid of the previous coach? Sure bud... [quote]


At the time it was a perfectly justified reaction, based on the way we had played so far.

[quote] I've read through the thread, though I have no desire to go back through every post. You continue to say the team played like shite. It wasn't even terribly accurate at the time you posted the initial thread, and yet still it became more and more wrong as the game went on. Just own it man... mistakes happen and you were emotional.


We did play like shite, and Smart backed that up with his comments after re-watching the game. I have owned that we came out and played better, how many times do y'all repeat the same thing, even though it's wrong??



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Except that it doesn't. I removed the word "old" and unless there were other edits made to that post, it doesn't change a damn thing. I only saw the comment once prior to the edit, but assuming that was the only change it really doesn't change the meaning, just adds clarity. You're literally the only one who doesn't understand that the sentence meaning doesn't change.



You didn't make the post that is in reference, so I'm guessing you don't know what you're taking about. It absolutely changes the post.


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Says the dude bitching that people are calling him names.


Never have I once bitched about anyone calling me a name. If you let a name on an Internet offend you, that the height of sadness. It's just sad that that's all anyone can do on this site.


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You aren't watching much football if you think that isn't classic Saban page 3 of the post game playbook. It's part of the process. Yes there were mistakes, which is to be expected in the first game. UNC just made more of them (ie. not giving Hood the ball more often).

Buckle up young buck, it's going to be a long season for you if you can't make it through a game before wondering why Richt is gone.



Obviously that is part of what Kirby took from Saban, as he did most things which in grateful for. However, if you think that Smart is actually happy about the way we played then you are fooling yourself.

Aren't we all used to long seasons??
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 3:34 pm
Posted by DrewDawg13
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 3:35 pm to
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was, you'd laugh your arse off.

He'll RA this post


Didn't I just tak about people who have no lives and obsess with this site?? Or even worse, they obsess over posters.

That's just so sad.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 3:45 pm to
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We did play like shite

You and I have a different definition of shite. Playing like shite was on full display from UTk, Arky, UF, etc... We played a ranked team at a "neutral site" (I'd argue it was a home game, but w/e), and while we certainly made our share of mistakes, we held a team that averaged something like 40 points per game last year to 17 offensive points and one special teams score. Offensively, we were too reliant on Chubb IMO, but again hardly "shite". Limiting mistakes is key, and as long as we make fewer of them than our opponent and we don't continuously make the same mistakes over and over, it's a better look than we've had over the past couple of seasons.

I think we'll all continue to evaluate and we won't have a complete picture until after Ole Miss/Tennessee, but to call the performance shite is underselling it. It's Kirby's *job* to undersell it to keep the process going. Your comments were, as literally everyone ITT but yourself has noted, an overreaction. It's not the end of the world, just takes a bit of perspective.
Posted by DrewDawg13
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Member since Apr 2015
3494 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:03 pm to
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You and I have a different definition of shite


Fair enough, I also have higher hopes for this season than most on here. And yes we definitely played better than basically the entire SEC, unfortunately that was saying much this past week.

I have admitted there were some highlights, and obviously Chubb was the biggest one. But there were a lot of struggles too. The O line made some really dumb plays, the run defense was not very good, thankfully UNC stopped running. You are right about the overall mistakes, they were better in the past, but I feel like there is a lot that needs in improvement.

Obviously we will keep evaluating, and hopefully improving. I understand that it's Kirbys job, but I'm also going to say what I think too. I don't think it's an overreaction at all. That's what's so ridiculous. Everyone is getting mad over my opinion. The fact is that people are overreacting to my opinion, but no one will admit to that.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32816 posts
Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:16 pm to
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We did play like shite,


We would have lost by a lot if we played like shite.
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/7/16 at 4:38 pm to
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And yes we definitely played better than basically the entire SEC, unfortunately that was saying much this past week.


Wut?
- 'Bama (oops, hang on, we just scored on USC again)
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