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Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 10/17/21 at 8:58 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
JTs stats do look more impressive than stets if you throw out the Clemson game but it was against the two worst teams in the sec.
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Posted on 10/17/21 at 9:05 pm to Griffindawg
Stet has done a great job but there's no question he's the backup qb of this team, imo. The only place there's a QB controversy is on TV where they have to drum up some kind of story other than repeating that we're far and away the best team in the country.
We haven't been winning games due to Stetson. We've been winning games thanks to an historically good defense, a stacked backfield, a brick wall of an O line, and some incredible young talent coming out at wideout and TE. You could throw my arse out there and we might win a game with this surrounding cast.
So, to JD's question, of course the Dawgs could win an NC with Stetson at QB. They could win with someone considerably worse than Stet. They will absolutely increase their chances with someone BETTER than Stetson, namely JT Daniels.
We haven't been winning games due to Stetson. We've been winning games thanks to an historically good defense, a stacked backfield, a brick wall of an O line, and some incredible young talent coming out at wideout and TE. You could throw my arse out there and we might win a game with this surrounding cast.
So, to JD's question, of course the Dawgs could win an NC with Stetson at QB. They could win with someone considerably worse than Stet. They will absolutely increase their chances with someone BETTER than Stetson, namely JT Daniels.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 9:11 pm to Griffindawg
UAB is on par or above Vandy and USc
Posted on 10/17/21 at 9:16 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I think that JT and Stetson are both good enough to win it all. Either one might be better on a given day. JT is money on third downs like almost no one else but Stetson can juice the running game with his feet. I don't see anything to worry about.
Posted on 10/17/21 at 9:48 pm to Whiznot
QB A
Comp ATT Cmp% Yards YPP TDs INT
80 119 67.2 1,231 10.3 10 2
Long QBR
55 178.5
Rushing
Att Yards YPC TDs Long
10 -71 -7.1 0 0
QB B
Comp ATT Cmp% Yards YPP TDs INT
57 82 69.5 996 12.1 11 2
Long QBR
89 210.9
Rushing
ATT Yards YPC TDs Long
19 148 7.8 0 30
Is either QB significantly better than the other. Does either one of the QBs give you a distinct advantage the other one doesn't? I think the main thing people are arguing is last years Stetson vs this years Stetson and remembering how he played poorly in certain games. I think the main thing I liked about JT is his willingness to throw deep balls - even if underthrown a lot and he also loved to use his Tight Ends more than Stetson did last year. That has changed this year - signficantly.
Comp ATT Cmp% Yards YPP TDs INT
80 119 67.2 1,231 10.3 10 2
Long QBR
55 178.5
Rushing
Att Yards YPC TDs Long
10 -71 -7.1 0 0
QB B
Comp ATT Cmp% Yards YPP TDs INT
57 82 69.5 996 12.1 11 2
Long QBR
89 210.9
Rushing
ATT Yards YPC TDs Long
19 148 7.8 0 30
Is either QB significantly better than the other. Does either one of the QBs give you a distinct advantage the other one doesn't? I think the main thing people are arguing is last years Stetson vs this years Stetson and remembering how he played poorly in certain games. I think the main thing I liked about JT is his willingness to throw deep balls - even if underthrown a lot and he also loved to use his Tight Ends more than Stetson did last year. That has changed this year - signficantly.
This post was edited on 10/17/21 at 9:52 pm
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:58 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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So, to JD's question, of course the Dawgs could win an NC with Stetson at QB. They could win with someone considerably worse than Stet. They will absolutely increase their chances with someone BETTER than Stetson, namely JT Daniels.
I agreed with your first sentence. As to your second sentence, Carson Beck is considerably worse than Bennett so far this season and we could not have come close to beating Arkansas or Kentucky with Beck. JT Daniels likely is better than Stet, but so far this year he hasn't proven it. Monken has tailored the offense to fit Stetson Bennett IV when he is on the field and Bennett has proven very capable of excelling in that offense.
When/if JT comes back than Monken will scheme for his strengths and we all hope JT can perform as well as Stet has.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:43 am to Buzz Killington
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I love Stet, but JT allows us to open up the playbook.
Just curious as to what plays JT can run that Stet can’t. I actually think the opposite is true. They are both fine QBs but Stet adds that 20+ yd QB run option.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:46 am to BrotherDawg84
There is like an entire section of the playbook that says “JT Only”. It is science…
Posted on 10/18/21 at 8:59 am to BrotherDawg84
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I love Stet, but JT allows us to open up the playbook.
Just curious as to what plays JT can run that Stet can’t. I actually think the opposite is true. They are both fine QBs but Stet adds that 20+ yd QB run option
Check the qb efficiency ratings on third down between the 2.
JT has a much higher football IQ and is better prepared to get the ball out on time in those crucial downs.
Secondly, Stetson is doing a better job eating the football when a defender is in his throwing lane. Those are where a good percentage of his INTs were coming from. JT has shown the ability to get the ball up and down over the defender thus converting those plays that continue drives.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:04 am to BrotherDawg84
I can give stet credit. I think our first down run game is better with him holding edge defenders. He also provides a scramble ability on 3rd down against coverage to maybe reach a first down marker (against a blitz, i trust JT to recognize and hot read better than Stetson trying to scramble against multiple defenders).
There are elements to Stetsons game that are better for our running backs.
But there are elements to JTs game that are better for our yards per play and explosiveness. We are deadly on play action right now. I feel like JT can keep us deadly in the air without the playaction too.
There are elements to Stetsons game that are better for our running backs.
But there are elements to JTs game that are better for our yards per play and explosiveness. We are deadly on play action right now. I feel like JT can keep us deadly in the air without the playaction too.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:05 am to Peter Buck
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There is like an entire section of the playbook that says “JT Only”. It is science…
Wut
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:10 am to Spaceman Spiff
They can’t open that whole section for Bennett!!!! It says so right there.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:12 am to Peter Buck
Stetson is our 4th leading rusher, has our 2nd longest run of the-year and highest ypc avg of top rushers.
This has been important in the play action IMO. Especially later in the game after he has run a couple. JT fake running to the right is never gonna make anybody flinch.
Stet appears to have much more chemistry going with receivers than prior. He only made one bad throw all game that I recall.
The middle of the field opens up more for JT.
Excited what two more weeks with receivers can mean at Florida.
This has been important in the play action IMO. Especially later in the game after he has run a couple. JT fake running to the right is never gonna make anybody flinch.
Stet appears to have much more chemistry going with receivers than prior. He only made one bad throw all game that I recall.
The middle of the field opens up more for JT.
Excited what two more weeks with receivers can mean at Florida.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:18 am to Spaceman Spiff
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There is like an entire section of the playbook that says “JT Only”. It is science…
Wut
Sarcasm. We have the luxury of having two very good QBs on this team. Stetson has carried the load when JT couldn’t. He’s a DGD and a DGQB.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:30 am to BrotherDawg84
One made of Glass and the other, piss and vinegar.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:44 am to BrotherDawg84
Agreed.
Just over a month ago, there was a debate about stetson and carson beck.
Now, fans are asking questions about the difference between JT and Stetson.
This is a good thing.
Just over a month ago, there was a debate about stetson and carson beck.
Now, fans are asking questions about the difference between JT and Stetson.
This is a good thing.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 9:59 am to Prettyboy Floyd
I’m at the point now where I don’t care which one of them is out there (unlike last season). I like JT in 3rd and medium / long situations. He’s gold. I like Stet for keeping the D honest with the run threat and play action.
Never thought I’d say this regarding Kirby and QBs, but I trust him on this. I’ll be happy with whoever he / Monken think give us the best chance to win and cheer them on accordingly.
Never thought I’d say this regarding Kirby and QBs, but I trust him on this. I’ll be happy with whoever he / Monken think give us the best chance to win and cheer them on accordingly.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:07 am to ChattanoogaDawg
Ive been told by "insiders" that this is Monkens offense and has been since he got here. Kirbys name is in all of the QB threads. But Monken is pulling the strings and making the decisions (not just playcalls).
The same for Lannings defense. It is dan lanning who is giving the defense the ability to freelance (not saying that kirby is for or against it... but saying that it is lannings coaching and call)
The same for Lannings defense. It is dan lanning who is giving the defense the ability to freelance (not saying that kirby is for or against it... but saying that it is lannings coaching and call)
Posted on 10/18/21 at 10:31 am to meansonny
If that’s the case then that shows some really positive coaching growth on Kirby’s part. It’s obvious how he wants to run his team, but in previous years it didn’t seem like he was willing to trust his coordinators enough to do their jobs. His hands seemed directly involved in everything. Maybe he’s reached the point where he believes his coaches understand his vision and he can trust them to find the best way to achieve that. If so, I tip my cap.
Posted on 10/18/21 at 11:06 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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where are the stats
I found these at Talkndawgs-
In 6 games Stetson Bennett IV has completed 57 of 82 passes (69.5%) for 996 yards (12.1 ypa, 17.5 ypc) and 11 TDs w/ 2 INTs; QBR 210.93. He has also rushed 19x for 148 yards (avg. 7.8 ypc).
In 3 games JT Daniels has completed 54 of 71 passes (76.1%) for 567 yards (8.0 ypa, 10.5 ypc) and 5 TDs w/ 2 INTs; QBR 160.74. He has also rushed 3x for -15 yards (avg. -5.0 ypc).
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