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re: (We have an answer) So why do you think Bobo went to SC rather than UGA?

Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:59 am to
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:59 am to
The difference between the two is so stark that I can't believe Fromm actually beat out Fields in any way significant enough to prevent a coach from pulling Fromm when he was playing poorly to see what the other kid could do. You just have to look at them. A change of scenery isn't enough to make a kid so much better after 7 months in a brand new system having never started a single college FB game.

More likely IMO is Kirby knew Fromm very well and he didn't want to damage his psyche by pulling him when he was playing badly or having a freshman play well enough to stir up more of a QB controversy. The way he talks about other players vs how he talks about Jake is evidence of how much he thinks about protecting Fromm's confidence.

Whatever the reason, their play has decided this argument. It was a colossal mistake not to give Fields every opportunity to play in every situation possible with the goal of making him the starter. The team has suffered for that blunder. I haven't heard many takes from unbiased people who believe this was handled well.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:35 pm to
Fromm is our QB and the other guy is long gone. The cocksuckers that keep pointing to a past QB who left on his own, is just being divisive.

The horse has been beaten to the point that the dog food plant will need a shopvac toget it on the truck.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Fromm is our QB and the other guy is long gone. The cocksuckers that keep pointing to a past QB who left on his own, is just being divisive.

The horse has been beaten to the point that the dog food plant will need a shopvac toget it on the truck.


True.

Lol. I keep letting myself get pulled back into this conversation.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 12:45 pm to
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Fromm is our QB and the other guy is long gone. The cocksuckers that keep pointing to a past QB who left on his own, is just being divisive.

The horse has been beaten to the point that the dog food plant will need a shopvac toget it on the truck.


Most are trolls that are not even UGA fans and the rest are miserable people.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:06 pm to
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More likely IMO is Kirby knew Fromm very well and he didn't want to damage his psyche by pulling him when he was playing badly


Most likely. Kirby let his feeling for Fromm enable him to make a bad decision.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:07 pm to
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Bryant wasn’t a sophomore coming off playing in the National Championship.


He was coming off a very similar situation.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:40 pm to
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Bobo thinks he will get the job when Boom gets banged.


Wouldn’t want to be the one who bangs Boom.

Posted by agentoranj1990
Mableton
Member since Oct 2016
908 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:31 pm to
Just my 2 cents. I remember reading the article where Bobo was really excited to go to CSU with Will Friend and start "his own thing." His wife is Vince Dooley's niece so maybe along with being a UGA grad he felt like he wanted to separate his professional career from his alma matter. Who knows what could end up happening. All these coaches jump around SEC schools. Muschamp has been at LSU, Florida, Auburn, and now at SC.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 10:28 am to
Seldom does a guy go back to where he used to coach, especially if it is a lateral or down move. It does happen but not often. Coaching at the D1 level is a big fraternity. They all know each other, if they have been in the business for a while. Fans get into team and school loyalty, coaches look at it as a job.

That being said, all of them at SC may be looking for a job next year this time.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 11:58 am to
Honestly think it's because part of his team was already at SCU.

Posted by busteruga
Member since Feb 2013
311 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 5:02 pm to
I have 2nd hand info from Kirby himself. Coley is back as OC and he likes Coley, thinks he is good offensive coach. We will see eventually how he turns out. Remember, Bobo was terrible in his early days as OC
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44668 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 5:10 pm to
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Remember, Bobo was terrible in his early days as OC


It seemed like in 2011 or so that Richt let Bobo do his own thing on offense. There was a noticable difference in formations from 2006-2010 and 2011-2014. The latter years saw more spread looks while the former years saw more I formation looks. Hopefully Kirby lets Coley show what he can do.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:30 pm to
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Watch Clemson, Ohio State, and LSU play. I would love for our offense to be like that. We have the athletes and recruiting to do it.


Watch the WRs on those teams, and Alabama. Then compare them to what our WR have done (actually what they have failed to do) and you'll never make that comparison again.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:49 pm to
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Bryant was a junior coming off of starting on a playoff team.


Bryant had already peaked and his limitations were obvious. From in 2017 and 2018 showed great potential. In 2019, poor coaching and poor play limited the offense in all ways.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44668 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:52 pm to
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Bryant had already peaked and his limitations were obvious


Sounds familiar
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6939 posts
Posted on 12/13/19 at 6:54 pm to
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Sounds familiar


We'll know by the evening of Sept. 19, 2020.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:52 am to
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Watch the WRs on those teams, and Alabama.


The truth is the QBs on those teams are light years better. UGA's receivers as a whole were more highly recruited than either OSU or LSU. I'll give you Clemson and Bama.

Nothing we've seen out of Coley convinces any of us he can out scheme or out coach anyone. His stint and Miami was not a good one either, but Miami has been terrible for a while. However, if Fromm had played a lot better all season there wouldn't be nearly as much whining about Coley.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 7:55 am
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32757 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:15 am to
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Bryant had already peaked and his limitations were obvious.


Interesting to see their passer ratings in 2019:

Fromm 139.6
Bryant 138.5

Both led teams to conference titles and playoffs. Both good leaders. Both protected the ball. Both had limitations. Both weren’t as talented as their freshman backups.

Dabo had balls and brains to make the change to elevate his team above 2017. Kirby didn’t. Clemson wins big. Uga didn’t, and instead Ohio st reaps the benefits we should have had. None of that is coincidence.

Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12413 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:19 am to
Trolls gonna troll
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:21 am to
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Dabo had balls and brains to make the change to elevate his team above 2017. Kirby didn’t. Clemson wins big. Uga didn’t, and instead Ohio st reaps the benefits we should have had. None of that is coincidence.


You're absolutely right, but I suspect even if they had kept Bryant they still would have made the playoffs last year, because the ACC is such a joke. However, they never would have beaten Bama with him.

When it comes to Fromm, this is just a guess, but I think Kirby's closeness and fondness for Fromm led him to make the wrong choice. Making choices based on anything other than playing the best player and doing what's best for the team will ultimately cause your program to decline and may ultimately lead to your firing. Richt used to do crap like that. Hopefully Kirby doesn't make future mistakes like that.
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