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re: (We have an answer) So why do you think Bobo went to SC rather than UGA?

Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:08 pm to
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I believe Fields is a better player than Fromm.


Would you have said this 24 months ago, and staked your career on it?

Considering one guy had only 1 yr of HS QB experience, and the other guy had just led you to a college NC game.

Pretend they're both black, if that helps you compare apples to apples.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:11 pm to
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I think it is some form of racism.


There definitely a flavor of that with some posters. The whole “he’s a deer hunting redneck so you guys love him” line of thinking as to why we don’t agree CKS shouldn’t have thrown Fromm overboard. They ignore what he did in 2017 and insist Fields should’ve gotten more of a chance. Even though he got more snaps than any freshman backup in history.

But I think it’s deeper than that.

We have a core group of fans (and that’s giving them the benefit of the doubt) that want to bitch and shite talk players and coaches. I think some of it is buried anger that Richt was fired (“well we fired Richt to win nattys so if we’re not we need to fire Smart” ). With others it’s the “I’m smarter than everyone” thing where they obviously know more than the coaches paid millions to do this. I fall into that category from time to time.

Some of it is the Fields fanboys that think if we’d have just given him the team then we’d be winning championships and skittles would be raining from our asses.

I’m sure there’s a great group think psychology thesis somewhere here but I don’t have a need for that type of thing.

This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 11:16 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Posts like this show a lack of emotional maturity.


Every post you’ve made since Your coming out party a month ago has been bitching about coaches, players and UGA overall.

You’re a chump.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:34 pm to
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Every post you’ve made since Your coming out party a month ago has been bitching about coaches, players and UGA overall.

You’re a chump.


Yeah buddy, this is a site for people to talk football, nothing serious. Just chill out.

Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:48 pm to
That’s the thing.

You’re not talking football. You’re spewing the same tired shite about CKS not willing to change and “ manball” and Fromm getting to play because Kirby is married to him...and shite like that. It’s drama queen bullshite.

Look...Kirby’s offense was fine until this year. You can’t change mid season. We’ll see what he does now but saying he’s unwilling to change is bullshite.

Secondly, no coach in the history of football would just give the team over to the backup year one with a sophomore QB that just took them to the Natty.

I get that everyone is frustrated but let’s don’t try to outdo each other with stupid bullshite.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 11:59 pm to
I am talking football, and there are a lot of people who agree with me. I believe there are legitimate questions about how Kirby has handled the offense. Watch Clemson, Ohio State, and LSU play. I would love for our offense to be like that. We have the athletes and recruiting to do it.

Kirby has done a great job with our program, but hiring Coley and not a real OC was a massive mistake.

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Secondly, no coach in the history of football would just give the team over to the backup year one with a sophomore QB that just took them to the Natty.


Saban did this in the 2018 NC game.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17450 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 6:26 am to
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So why do you think Bobo went to SC rather than UGA?



Who really cares? Beating a dead horse is nothing more than trolling. Whats done is done.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25871 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 6:36 am to
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Secondly, no coach in the history of football would just give the team over to the backup year one with a sophomore QB that just took them to the Natty.

I admire your ability to just black out that second half NC game experience entirely.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 6:37 am
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 7:59 am to
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second half NC game experience entirely.
That's the last half of football for the season in a game your starter is clearly not winning. Until that point, Tua was only in at garbage time and got less playing time than Fields did. Including the beating they took in the Iron Bowl. JK Scott had more passing attempts in the Iron Bowl than Tua. That's clearly not the same situation.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 8:46 am to
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Secondly, no coach in the history of football would just give the team over to the backup year one with a sophomore QB that just took them to the Natty.


Dabo had the nuts to do it. And yes, the gap between Fields and Fromm is as wide as the gap between Lawrence and Bryant.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:43 am to
Bryant wasn’t a sophomore coming off playing in the National Championship.

And as said above - Fields got way more time in 2018 than Tua ever got in 2017.

If that’s as close as you can get to an example of a coach benching a sophomore who was wildly successful his freshman year for a new recruit then you’re kidding yourselves.

Some of you don’t read very well.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 9:47 am to
They are trolls Squatch.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:43 am to
Yep...it’s just so hard to let this bullshite go. I’ll do better.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:46 am to
the difference in hurts/tua, bryant/lawrence, fromm/fields is that hurts and bryant couldnt' pass worht a lick. Both guys got by for so long due to their athleticism and runnign ability but it was crystal clear that neither was above average throwing the ball which is kind of important. Saban and dabo truly had no choice but to go with the guy that could at least present some kind of threat throwing the ball.

Fromm isn't some all-world dynamic passer but is 100x more accomplished in that regard than hurts or bryant were. It's not nearly as cut and dry easy as those other cases.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25871 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:47 am to
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That's the last half of football in a game your starter is clearly not winning.

See also: UGA vs. LSU 2018.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 10:48 am
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:51 am to
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hurts and bryant couldnt' pass worht a lick


Funny, because Hurts was far better throwing the football than Fromm was this season.

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dabo truly had no choice but to go with the guy that could at least present some kind of threat throwing the ball.


Bryant led his team to the playoffs the previous year. The comparison to Fromm is good one.

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Fromm isn't some all-world dynamic passer but is 100x more accomplished in that regard than hurts or bryant were


If you watched Fromm this year you would know that's not true. Check Hurts' numbers versus Fromm.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86434 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 10:56 am to
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Funny, because Hurts was far better throwing the football than Fromm was this season.


I'm not talking abotu this season, I'm talking abotu what led to their benching. IF you'll recall hurts was 3/8 for 21 yards in the game that got him benched. Waht he's going now at oklahoma, a wide open offense that throws everywhere in a conference wiht no defense, is irrelevnat.

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Bryant led his team to the playoffs the previous year.


threw 13 TDs and 8 INT. AGain, he was successful because of his running (nearly 700 yards adn 11 touchdowns), not his pasing. It didn't hurt playing in the ridiculously weak ACC.

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If you watched Fromm this year you would know that's not true. Check Hurts' numbers versus Fromm.


and once again that has nothing to do wiht the topic at hand. Fromm last year (the year in which fields was here...) put up better numbers than the guy that's about to run away wiht the heisman.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
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Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:01 am to
But but but... my stats that I like are different.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44697 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:14 am to
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Bryant wasn’t a sophomore coming off playing in the National Championship.



Bryant was a junior coming off of starting on a playoff team.
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 11:17 am
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 11:43 am to
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See also: UGA vs. LSU 2018.

Like I said....Saban left Hurts in for the entire Iron Bowl in 2017. 2017 Bama was what you were using as an example of when a coach put in a freshman, right? So in the regular season, both teams got blown out with their second year starter in the whole game.
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