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re: (We have an answer) So why do you think Bobo went to SC rather than UGA?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:20 pm to FlexDawg
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:20 pm to FlexDawg
Plain and simple: Bobo was contacted first by South Carolina and if he had committed himself in that direction by the time Georgia had an opening, then Bobo kept that commitment by honoring it. Bobo is very highly principled and an honorable man. I love the guy; but, he honored his commitment to Muschamp and South Carolina first. It all works out for the best.
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Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:48 pm to Dawgfanman
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where does this belief come from that he’s a control freak, set in his ways and unwilling to take input or change?
I base it on him not making any real changes during the time Chaney was our OC, and no changes this season even as we saw the offensive deficiencies all season long. The two or three pass plays to open the SECCG were the first surprise plays I can recall all season. But that spurt dried up quickly.
Why did he not change things with Chaney? I think that was one reason Chaney chose to leave.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:06 pm to AlaCowboy
Chaney was offered more money at UTk and we didn't match. Knoxville isn't a bad place to live either. It is as simple as that.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:08 pm to AlaCowboy
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The two or three pass plays to open the SECCG were the first surprise plays I can recall all season. But that spurt dried up quickly
Not sure are you talking about. We threw on 1st down in half possession vs LSU,threw 9 times on 1st down vs A&M,threw 5 times on 1st down vs Auburn in the 1st half.
So you were expecting us to throw on 1st down in all those games and series? Amazing.
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I base it on him not making any real changes during the time Chaney was our OC
We were 2nd in the SEC in total offense in
'17 and '18.What changes did you want to see?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:08 pm to Arch Madness
Did we not match because he said he was leaving so don't bother?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:12 pm to RD Dawg
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We were 2nd in the SEC in total offense in
'17 and '18.What changes did you want to see?
Maybe the changes nearly everyone on here bitched about not being made. The general feeling here was to get rid of Chaney. Funny that no one remembers that after they got their wish.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:25 pm to AlaCowboy
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Maybe the changes nearly everyone on here bitched about not being made
I think the results kinda speak for themselves but I know people were pissed after LSU and Texas but both games were marred by poor execution.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:49 pm to AlaCowboy
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Maybe the changes nearly everyone on here bitched about not being made. The general feeling here was to get rid of Chaney. Funny that no one remembers that after they got their wish
Fans don’t know our arse from a hole in the ground. No coach in his right mind was gonna make wholesale changes to an offense as successful as our in 17/18. We won 11 games, we were hampered as shite by injury on offense in the 2nd loss. Kirby likely thinks if we aren’t down to Simmons and Landers as our top two options in the SECC we coulda won 12.
We need to improve on offense. It’s reasonable to assume that Pickens/Blaylock/Jackson and the host of other young talented WRs will all become better players and that we will improve on offense. If we don’t, Kirby will make a change.
He has to consider things fans don’t, stability of the program at a SECE champ and top 5 team level chief among them. Going all “burn it down” after 19 would make little sense.
The talk I see about Kirby is what you’d expect to see after 2-3 years of stagnant/predictable offense that leads to failure to win at a high level. Not what you’d see after an 11 win season where you lost to the best team in the country ina CFP entry game.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:28 pm to Dawgfanman
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set in his ways and unwilling to take input or change?
I think how he handled the Fields situation, ultimately allowing him to leave rather than changing course in the name of a higher ceiling, provides a good bit of evidence.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:31 pm to Dawgfanman
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It’s reasonable to assume that Pickens/Blaylock/Jackson and the host of other young talented WRs will all become better players and that we will improve on offense.
But he should have anticipated that players like Ridley, Hardman, and Nauta would go pro - why wasn't the cupboard already stacked with the next 5 stars up? Seemed like the only sure bet coming back was Holloman.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:32 pm to Lucius Clay
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I think how he handled the Fields situation, ultimately allowing him to leave rather than changing course in the name of a higher ceiling, provides a good bit of evidence.
When was he to change course during 2018? Our QB had a great year last year. Was he supposed to promise Fields the job in 2019?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:38 pm to Dawgfanman
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Our QB had a great year last year.
Well, other than at LSU, where he stunk to high heaven. Fields should have been getting significant playing time all season.
The simple fact is, Kirby wanted experience over talent...but when the talent is that much higher, sometimes you have to roll the dice and get the elite guy in there and let him progress. Had he done so, might have had a real QB battle this pre-season. But Fields knew Smart just won't operate that way.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:52 pm to Lucius Clay
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The simple fact is, Kirby wanted experience over talent...but when the talent is that much higher, sometimes you have to roll the dice and get the elite guy in there and let him progress. Had he done so, might have had a real QB battle this pre-season. But Fields knew Smart just won't operate that way.
Hindsight is 20/20, but get in your time machine and go back 24 months...
Fromm, as a true freshman, led us to our first national championship game in 30+ years, and lost in overtime. So close. Then Fields comes in, true freshman. Was Kirby really supposed to bench Fromm? Put yourself in that situation almost two years ago. Pretend you are the head coach. Your backup QB stepped up last year and led you to the national championship game. Do you sit him down because the new freshman has so much potential?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:54 pm to deeprig9
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Hindsight is 20/20, but get in your time machine and go back 24 months...
Fromm, as a true freshman, led us to our first national championship game in 30+ years, and lost in overtime. So close. Then Fields comes in, true freshman. Was Kirby really supposed to bench Fromm? Put yourself in that situation almost two years ago. Pretend you are the head coach. Your backup QB stepped up last year and led you to the national championship game. Do you sit him down because the new freshman has so much potential?
Not necessarily, but you should give him a fair chance. Fromm should have been benched against LSU.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 9:59 pm to Buzz Killington
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Not necessarily, but you should give him a fair chance.
How many snaps should Fields have had?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:01 pm to deeprig9
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How many snaps should Fields have had?
That's not how you should look at it. After we had 0 points at halftime, I think it would have been reasonable to give Fields a chance to see if he could be more productive.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:28 pm to Buzz Killington
Fields had around 120 snaps last year. You said he should have gotten a fair number. How many snaps is a fair amount?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:40 pm to deeprig9
Don’t waste your time Rig.
You’re debating with people that have to assign blame when we don’t win and things go wrong. It makes them feel like they’re smarter than everyone else. They would have you believe we should’ve benched Fromm and let Fields spread his wings in 2018 despite the fact that no other coach in football would’ve done that to the guy who just did what Fromm did.
They’re bitter angry people. They throw our players under the bus and want to shite talk everyone because it makes them feel better. It’s some kind of weird psychosis.
You’re debating with people that have to assign blame when we don’t win and things go wrong. It makes them feel like they’re smarter than everyone else. They would have you believe we should’ve benched Fromm and let Fields spread his wings in 2018 despite the fact that no other coach in football would’ve done that to the guy who just did what Fromm did.
They’re bitter angry people. They throw our players under the bus and want to shite talk everyone because it makes them feel better. It’s some kind of weird psychosis.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:48 pm to SquatchDawg
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It’s some kind of weird psychosis.
I think it is some form of racism.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 10:59 pm to SquatchDawg
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Don’t waste your time Rig.
You’re debating with people that have to assign blame when we don’t win and things go wrong. It makes them feel like they’re smarter than everyone else. They would have you believe we should’ve benched Fromm and let Fields spread his wings in 2018 despite the fact that no other coach in football would’ve done that to the guy who just did what Fromm did.
They’re bitter angry people. They throw our players under the bus and want to shite talk everyone because it makes them feel better. It’s some kind of weird psychosis.
Posts like this show a lack of emotional maturity. I believe Fields is a better player than Fromm. This is not throwing them under the bus nor is this an attack on their character. Referring to people who don't share your same opinion as "bitter angry people" is childlike. Please grow up.
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