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Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:13 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 7/10/22 at 8:13 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Probably more like ABC at noon to combat Fox’s big noon phenomenal success.
I guess my point is that if the game gets moved on campus, it won't get preferential treatment from TV people. #7 Georgia at unranked Florida, for example, is not getting a prime time slot. That would get buried on the backburner. Like it or not, it isn't on the same level as Michigan/Ohio State or Alabama/Auburn, and the uniqueness of the neutral site game is the ONLY reason CBS keeps it at 3:30 every year.
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Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:09 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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playing in giant sterile corporate nfl stadiums.
The fact that you think the environment for Georgia-Florida in Jacksonville is “sterile” tells me you’ve clearly never been to the game. You may change your mind if you did. That place is anything but sterile for that game.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:28 pm to BranchDawg
Off the top of my head, Dawgs are 4 and 8 when I’ve been in attendance in Jacksonville
Now go get your shine box
Now go get your shine box
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:33 pm to VADawg
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on campus, it won't get preferential treatment from TV people. #7 Georgia at unranked Florida, for example, is not getting a prime time slot. That would get buried on the backburner. Like it or not, it isn't on the same level as Michigan/Ohio State or Alabama/Auburn, and the uniqueness of the neutral site game is the ONLY reason CBS keeps it at 3:30 every year.
Huh
Go get branchdogs shinebox.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 12:03 am to Jefferson Dawg
It's time. We need to stop giving the gators an extra home game every other year, while giving up a home game every other year.
Times are changing. Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, Texas aTm are in the SEC.
Time to get every advantage we can. Evolve or die, imo.
Times are changing. Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, Texas aTm are in the SEC.
Time to get every advantage we can. Evolve or die, imo.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:33 am to AlaCowboy
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I went to some of the games when I was younger and the week long celebration in Birmingham was equal to a WLOCP week. Maybe even bigger
somehow I doubt that people were taking the week off work starting on Tuesday to drive their RVs 2 hours to birmingham to park it near legion field to spend the week.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 8:38 am to GoldenDawg
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Time to get every advantage we can. Evolve or die, imo.
I've love to know how we're disadvantaged. One time over a 2 season period we play a home game not in Sanford as opposed to in Sanford. That's a pretty minute "disadvantage". And who excactly does it disadvantage? Damn sure not the school since UGA gets paid out the arse for this game and amkes more than if it were h/h. The fans look forward to it every year so they aren't put out. The only entity you could say is truly at a disadvantage is the downtown are losing the foot traffic, but you could say that about these neutral site openers as well that people don't seem to be up in arms about. Recruiting? I promise you losing one weekend over a 2 YEAR stretch where we don't get to host recruits is not hurting our recruting any. We've played this game in Jacksonville since the 30s yet somehow we've seemed to recruti just fine under kirby.
eta: let's also not ignore that every other year we'd be disadvantaged by having to play in gainesville. We would play @knoxville, @gainesville, and @auburn every other year. To go along with any other OOC games we have like in '17 when we also played @notre dame.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 8:45 am
Posted on 7/11/22 at 9:47 am to WG_Dawg
They actually did. There are books written about it.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 12:01 pm to WG_Dawg
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And who excactly does it disadvantage?
I'm sure there are some season ticket holders who would rather not lose a home game every other year, especially if they live nowhere near JAX.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:13 pm to WG_Dawg
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Recruiting? I promise you losing one weekend over a 2 YEAR stretch where we don't get to host recruits is not hurting our recruting any.
For the record I'm generally pro-Jax for this game- history and nostalgia noted. Although I do think the game as it currently exists will change at some point.
Your argument about losing 1 weekend over a 2 year stretch is way over simplistic. Marquee matchups are recruiting gold- and UF would be a g'teed marquee game every other year. So it's not 1 recruiting weekend every 104 weeks (52 weekends a yr x 2); it's losing 1 marquee game out of 2-3 similar type weekends every 2 years. % wise that is a big deal. Kirby gets what Kirby wants, and Kirby wants every recruiting advantage he can get. For this reason I think this game will change in the foreseeable future.
Your comments on current level of recruiting is noted...and correct.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 3:28 pm to VADawg
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I guess my point is that if the game gets moved on campus, it won't get preferential treatment from TV people. #7 Georgia at unranked Florida, for example, is not getting a prime time slot. That would get buried on the backburner. Like it or not, it isn't on the same level as Michigan/Ohio State or Alabama/Auburn, and the uniqueness of the neutral site game is the ONLY reason CBS keeps it at 3:30 every year.
This isn't a concern imo. The CBS contract is straightforward- SEC schedule with no other concerns/ tie-ins. Historically there simply aren't that many compelling SEC matchups that weekend. With OU/ TX and possible network tie-ins (meaning the buying network may have an interest in a more compelling non-SEC game during the 3:30 time slot) that could change. But I don't think the location of the game is a very big concern when creating the TV slate.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:38 pm to WG_Dawg
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I've love to know how we're disadvantaged.
Then don't ask me. Ask Kirby Smart:
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That said, Smart still feels playing at a neutral site puts Georgia at a competitive disadvantage in recruiting. The Bulldogs lose a home game off its schedule every other year, which means it also loses the opportunity to host prospects on official visits.
“They're really important weekends,” Smart said. “We just have one less shot at those. That's the toughest thing.”
It's not a mystery. And if it disadvantages us, according to Coach Smart (and common sense), I am okay with ending it.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 11:44 am to deeprig9
It’s pretty simple, UGA demands that the Auburn game is moved back to it’s normal year. Then don’t schedule a neutral site or away game when UGA is the designated Home Team for WLOCP. It’s not that difficult to get both the game and the recruiting… then the only thing the complaints have, is they don’t want to go to Jax or they can’t get tickets… which I care nothing about!
Posted on 7/12/22 at 12:37 pm to Rex Feral
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 12:38 pm to Rex Feral
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Florida fans complaining now
Yea, every time we get the upper hand, they piss and moan. They did it all thru the 80s.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:04 pm to UnderDog68
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Yea, every time we get the upper hand, they piss and moan. They did it all thru the 80s.
And we did it all through the 90's and further. I was one of the piss and moaners. Florida's dominance just had to be the home field advantage, couldn't possibly be because they were just fielding better teams than us. I spent a long time in denial.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 2:52 pm to deeprig9
Yeah, Spurrier ran rings around Goff, it wasnt even fair. Donnan put togther a good year and beat uf once, and CMR left too much to chance and even lost to Zook.
We have a far better program now, we were too dumb to know how far behind we really were....
We have a far better program now, we were too dumb to know how far behind we really were....
Posted on 7/12/22 at 3:39 pm to GoldenDawg
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ccording to Coach Smart (and common sense), I am okay with ending it.
Like every other UGA fan on the planet, I love Kirby. How could we not? But UGA football is bigger than kirby, or any individual man. The Georgia Florida game is as traditional as traditions can get at UGA and has been in its current iteration for nearly 100 years. The fact that our coach has small nitpicks abotu it is not reason enough to completely change it.
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That said, Smart still feels playing at a neutral site puts Georgia at a competitive disadvantage in recruiting.
yet we've opened the last 2 seasons at a neutral site, and would've bene 3 seasons in a row if not for covid.
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The Bulldogs lose a home game off its schedule every other year, which means it also loses the opportunity to host prospects on official visits.
which again, is not really a big deal. We have 6 or 7 actual home games a year, so let's call it 13 home games over a 2 year period. Having 13 opportunities over 2 years to host recruits instead of 14 is not going to make or break us getting a recruit. If there's a recruit that really wants to be here, or more likely one that we really want to land, we'll find a way to get them here and show them what we need to show them. Let's also not ignore that the pageantry and uniqueness of UGA/UF is pretty friggin awesome and cool to a teenager.
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They're really important weekends,” Smart said. “We just have one less shot at those. That's the toughest thing.”
right, so it's a small setback. It's not a reason to upend a century of tradition.
Mcgarity already bent over and let AU move from November, something that had only been done like 3 times in 120+ years beforehand. Now with increasing expansion we're probably not even going to get to play them every year, further spitting in the face of a big part of what's made UGA football through the yeras. Now we want to cancel the cocktail party? To get 1 extra recruiting weekend over 2 years? Lunacy.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 5:45 pm to WG_Dawg
I don’t think we are hurting in recruiting. Bc of Jax. If anything it should appeal to recruits bc ga/fl is THE GAME that weekend every year. It’s a big deal. Did I tell y’all yet my wife’s cousins wedding is 10/29? I already told half her family I’m not fricking attending the wedding.
Posted on 7/12/22 at 6:09 pm to Griffindawg
Why can't uga and uf agree to host recruits in jax?
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