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The simple fact is UGA isn't there yet
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:47 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:47 am
It can be spun any way one wants, but the facts will always point to the same direction. We aren't there yet.
Our OLine was exposed for the true weakness it is. The simple fact is, we haven't played a superior Dline until Auburn. When four players are imposing their will, that speaks volumes. Hell, when we had 7 they still couldn't block 5.
We aren't there yet. No other way to put it.
Our OLine was exposed for the true weakness it is. The simple fact is, we haven't played a superior Dline until Auburn. When four players are imposing their will, that speaks volumes. Hell, when we had 7 they still couldn't block 5.
We aren't there yet. No other way to put it.
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Posted on 11/15/17 at 8:48 am to Spaceman Spiff
I agree that we aren't there yet. However, I think with good coaching and adjustments, this team can still win the SEC and make a playoff run.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:01 am to Red&Black
Red and Black hit the nail on the head I think.
I think this team is a lot like my all time favorite sports team - the '91 Braves... probably not going win the Championship... but there is a chance. We can feel that the next decade could be something really special and we are all confident that even if the Championship doesn't happen this year... it will happen soon. Hopefully this ride will last through Jan and lets have some fun!
I think this team is a lot like my all time favorite sports team - the '91 Braves... probably not going win the Championship... but there is a chance. We can feel that the next decade could be something really special and we are all confident that even if the Championship doesn't happen this year... it will happen soon. Hopefully this ride will last through Jan and lets have some fun!
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:07 am to Spaceman Spiff
Depends on what there is.
If there is the best team in the country...you really have gone out on a limb with this brave declaration.
If there is defined as a general competitive place you expected the team to be during year 2 of the Kirby era. Id say... You wrong
We are there!
If there is the best team in the country...you really have gone out on a limb with this brave declaration.
If there is defined as a general competitive place you expected the team to be during year 2 of the Kirby era. Id say... You wrong
We are there!
Posted on 11/15/17 at 9:24 am to retooc
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If there is the best team in the country...you really have gone out on a limb with this brave declaration.
In fairness...before the Auburn game we were speculating a playoff of:
Georgia
Clemson/Miami
Oklahoma
Notre Dame
I felt like it was possible for us to beat all of them....thinking Oklahoma would be our toughest game.
With Alabama's LB's beat up, I felt it gave us a shot at beating them. The only serious concern I had was stopping oklahoma's passing/offense, but I saw all the teams as beatable. I was hoping for a Miami, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Goergia final four.
Now? Not so much.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:09 am to retooc
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Depends on what there is.
We're ahead of schedule but the project is still not yet complete.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:09 am to DawgsLife
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With Alabama's LB's beat up, I felt it gave us a shot at beating them. The only serious concern I had was stopping oklahoma's passing/offense, but I saw all the teams as beatable. I was hoping for a Miami, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Goergia final four.
Possible? Sure. Anything is possible. But this team isn't there yet, even with as much as we want to pretend they are. I seem to recall everyone saying that it'll take three or four years to get the recruits, talent, and depth needed. But we conveniently tend to forget that.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 10:35 am to deeprig9
quote:This.
We're ahead of schedule but the project is still not yet complete.
We got ahead of ourselves by getting a #1 ranking heading into the toughest stretch of our schedule. I don't think the team is as bad as they played on Saturday, nor do I think Auburn is as good as they played. The pieces came together for them at the right time and it was a game we weren't destined to win. We did everything wrong and they did everything right. It happens.
Frommward.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:17 am to Spaceman Spiff
I think we're 2 years away from being a serious title contender, but I think we're getting closer. With the way our last recruiting class finished and this current class looking to close strong, By 2019 we should have a extremely formidable offense and a very strong defense.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:37 am to crispyUGA
There is no excuse for losing to Auburn like we did. Our recruiting classes are consistently better than theirs. I hope we play them on a neutral site because I don't think they're better than us.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:45 am to Spaceman Spiff
Got to keep it in perspective. Look at our glaring issues last season. We've definitely made a very good "year 2" jump but the pieces were not in place for us to be one of the top 2 or 3 teams in the country yet.
The offensive line was a huge problem last year. It's better - Kindley was able to redshirt last year but he's only playing his first full season. At right tackle, we have a true freshman. Our best lineman is a 6-1 guy playing left tackle. Another big recruiting year plus development of the current youngsters will keep us progressing.
Obviously, we went from a freshman QB to another freshman QB. Fromm will also continue to progress.
Defensive backs were good at times last year but also had some shaky moments. We're better in the secondary this year but there are a lot of youngsters who are up-and-coming in that group.
We need to continue to recruit and get the quality of DL's that Alabama signs on a routine basis. We've got some good ones but we don't really have the depth of talent yet.
The Auburn game was a wake up call that some of us saw coming...but we also made ourselves look worse through mental collapses.
The offensive line was a huge problem last year. It's better - Kindley was able to redshirt last year but he's only playing his first full season. At right tackle, we have a true freshman. Our best lineman is a 6-1 guy playing left tackle. Another big recruiting year plus development of the current youngsters will keep us progressing.
Obviously, we went from a freshman QB to another freshman QB. Fromm will also continue to progress.
Defensive backs were good at times last year but also had some shaky moments. We're better in the secondary this year but there are a lot of youngsters who are up-and-coming in that group.
We need to continue to recruit and get the quality of DL's that Alabama signs on a routine basis. We've got some good ones but we don't really have the depth of talent yet.
The Auburn game was a wake up call that some of us saw coming...but we also made ourselves look worse through mental collapses.
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 11:56 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:48 am to crispyUGA
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I think we're 2 years away from being a serious title contender, but I think we're getting closer. With the way our last recruiting class finished and this current class looking to close strong, By 2019 we should have a extremely formidable offense and a very strong defense.
I think we are a serious title contender this year.
Fromm is very good.
Backfield is excellent.
WR tandem with Wims and Godwin are as good as anyone else's.
Defense is elite.
OL much improved, but still not elite.
Special Teams good.
We absolutely can contend, right now. We are contending, right now.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 11:54 am to jodeaux
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There is no excuse for losing to Auburn like we did.
I agree with this. It was a perfect storm this past Saturday. Our offensive line had never really faced a talented defensive front like Auburn's and when Auburn punched back, we didn't know what to do. It just snowballed from there.
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Our recruiting classes are consistently better than theirs.
Auburn usually finishes in the top 10, similar to a standard Richt class, though maybe a couple spots behind us. If we can continue to reel in top 3 classes, though, then he talent gap will widen. It's not like Auburn is competing with Vandy and UK for recruits; they usually go toe-to-toe with UGA and Bama for a lot of their recruits.
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I hope we play them on a neutral site because I don't think they're better than us.
All around, maybe not, but they match-up well against us. They're very experienced and talented along the defensive front and can both stuff the run and get after the QB. I think it's a very different game on a neutral field, but maybe we'll see at the SECCG.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 3:45 pm to crispyUGA
Rankings only matter when you are out of the championship picture and have nothing else palpable to care about.
Rankings only matter when they are all you have left.
Forgot who I intended to respond to in this post
Rankings only matter when they are all you have left.
Forgot who I intended to respond to in this post
This post was edited on 11/15/17 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:26 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Possible? Sure. Anything is possible.
Unless you are Alabama, then that's as good as it get for anybody. Typically I can look at the top 4 and say at least one will not win and feel pretty certain about it.
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But this team isn't there yet, even with as much as we want to pretend they are.
I think you misread my post. When I said it was possible, I said I felt that way before the Auburn game. I think everybody realizes we really don't have a chance at winning everything. I would still say we could slip up and win the SEC, though. It would take a minor miracle, but it isn't out of the question.
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I seem to recall everyone saying that it'll take three or four years to get the recruits, talent, and depth needed.
Of course that was when some were saying the cupboard was bare. I think this year has proven that to be a fallacy.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 5:28 pm to jodeaux
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There is no excuse for losing to Auburn like we did. Our recruiting classes are consistently better than theirs. I hope we play them on a neutral site because I don't think they're better than us.
If only recruiting was the only piece to the puzzle. Getting people that fit your scheme...developing the players....chemistry.....there are a lot of things that
go into making a top team.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:29 pm to Red&Black
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I agree that we aren't there yet. However, I think with good coaching and adjustments, this team can still win the SEC and make a playoff run.
This pretty much sums it up for me. Yes, our team isn't championship level yet but considering Bama has injuries to 3 starting LB's and Auburn has 2 losses, I'm not sure we aren't just as worthy as anyone to win the SEC and make a playoff bid. Frankly, I just don't see any teams that are so dominant that on a given day we couldn't beat them including Auburn. But to do so we are definitely going to need more innovation on offense aka we must turn loose Fromm and hope our receivers can make enough plays to stretch the defenses.
This post was edited on 11/16/17 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:34 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Is Miami "there" in year 2 with richt? Is the U back?
What did they have coming off an 8-5 season in 2015 that we didnt have?
A 15th nationally ranked recruiting class ?
6th ranked in the acc.
What did they have coming off an 8-5 season in 2015 that we didnt have?
A 15th nationally ranked recruiting class ?
6th ranked in the acc.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:46 pm to Griffindawg
If Miami beats Clemson then you’ve got half a point.
Posted on 11/15/17 at 6:47 pm to DawgsLife
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there are a lot of things that go into making a top team.
Smart also took who he could get for an Offensive Coordinator. We all know that Jim Chaney would not have been a top tier choice but with the timing, it was about the best that could be done.
I'm dubious that we can get where we want with Chaney. He's not stayed anywhere more than 2-3 years and I don't think anyone would consider him a great coaching mind.
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