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re: T. Campbell
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:17 am to Peter Buck
Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:17 am to Peter Buck
I was told on another forum that Kirby teaches them not to turn their head but to "stay in phase" and play the man? Is that really true? And if so, how the hell is that effective? And, PI will be called most every time if you don't turn your head.
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Posted on 11/9/20 at 10:46 am to GeorgiaBoy
They are coached to turn their head. But not early (they can lose the receiver)
The question is how should they turn.
We are coached to turn inside the body of the receiver.
Some people prefer to turn away from the receiver.
Turning inside should allow more length to disrupt the ball.
Turning outside should allow more of a "play on the ball" if the throw isnt perfect.
It is hard to say if there is a right or wrong. We work harder to avoid the big play.
The question is how should they turn.
We are coached to turn inside the body of the receiver.
Some people prefer to turn away from the receiver.
Turning inside should allow more length to disrupt the ball.
Turning outside should allow more of a "play on the ball" if the throw isnt perfect.
It is hard to say if there is a right or wrong. We work harder to avoid the big play.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:11 am to DawgCountry
quote:whispers....*coaching*
far from a flop, but not elite either. Similar to our team in general, we excel against lesser talent but perform poorly against elite teams/players
Posted on 11/9/20 at 11:39 am to RedPants
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whispers....*coaching*
whispers back. . . *Eric Stokes* *Deandre Baker* *Dominic Sanders*
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:07 pm to GeorgiaBoy
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I was told on another forum that Kirby teaches them not to turn their head but to "stay in phase" and play the man? Is that really true? And if so, how the hell is that effective? And, PI will be called most every time if you don't turn your head.
I can only assume they also teach them to read the receiver and get your hands on his hands as the ball appears to come in. The advantage is you typically stay closer to the receiver so you can disrupt the catch. Downside is you are more susceptible to PI and accurate passers.
Again, if you are playing pressure man and are not getting pressure on the QB, your chances of success are diminished. The root cause of both of our losses this year have been not getting defensive pressure. You can blame the QB and there is blame to be carried by the QB. but realistically, our offense is not going to light it up this year. Still, we had a 14 point lead and then Florida went on a rampage with mainly easy passes due to picking us in man and having the ability to wait for the picks to develop in a clean pocket with plenty of passing lanes. We adjusted to them in the 2nd half and they scored 6 points.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:11 pm to Peter Buck
Watch Campbell go from CB to All Pro at safety in the NFL.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 1:39 pm to BranchDawg
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We haven’t had a true shutdown corner since Baker.
You say that like Baker played way back with David Pollack.
I'd argue we have one on the team right now in #27.
Posted on 11/9/20 at 3:43 pm to Barstools
Give a QB 4.5 seconds and a clean pocket and you will never have a shut down QB
Posted on 11/9/20 at 4:18 pm to BranchDawg
Who haven't Pitts and Smith not made look terrible tho. Lanning should not have him on an island with those guys. Needed to have coverage help for him on passing plays.
Campbell is a pure press corner with minimal coverage skills. Mainly due to the fact he as trouble pin pointing the ball and having non fluid movements tracking it.
Campbell is a pure press corner with minimal coverage skills. Mainly due to the fact he as trouble pin pointing the ball and having non fluid movements tracking it.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 4:38 am to BranchDawg
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We haven’t had a true shutdown corner since Baker.
Technically, he was a hold-up corner.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 7:45 am to Peter Buck
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We adjusted to them in the 2nd half and they scored 6 points.
So it took Kirby a full half of football to adjust to something that seems pretty obvious?
Posted on 11/10/20 at 8:00 am to Sandwich
It appeared that way.
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:23 am to jodeaux
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uh no, dude is going in the first round. He's a stud
I think that was possible but he lost himself a looooot of money against Alabama and Florida.
He's a great athlete but it seems like something is missing, very similar to AJ Terrell. Terrell is an amazing athlete who got his arse handed to him by JaMarr Chase, which foreshadowed his horrendously bad rookie season with the Falcons. Campbell needs another year in college to prove that he can hold his own against upper tier college WRs or he will get similarly exposed in the NFL.
And before anyone says something about Baker struggling in the NFL, totally different situation. Baker is a gangbanger who was falling asleep in meetings and generally couldn't give any less of a shite about football once he got that first round money.
This post was edited on 11/10/20 at 9:30 am
Posted on 11/10/20 at 9:35 am to meansonny
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One of those TD passes overCampbell, he tried to swipe down with his hand. The reception was over him. Swiping up would have disrupted the receiver from bringing the ball into his chest. The smallest of details...
That was the TD pass to Grimes at the end of the half. I saw that and said the same thing.
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