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Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:15 pm to meansonny
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I'm not reading your link
Sounds about right
Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:26 pm to Whiznot
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Our preparedness took a big hit when we waited two months to begin ramping up testing and the production of PPE. We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare and paid sick leave.
So, no blame for Governors and Mayors of the epicenter encouraging their people to go to movies and parades and keeping their schools open while everyone else was closing theirs?
No blame for saying the exact same things Trump was saying, when they said that it was like the flu, and was nothing to be alarmed about?
Why blame Trump when half of the news media and state leaderships were saying the same things and criticizing Trump for shutting down travel?
earlier in the thread y'all wanted to lambast trump for lack of action, now it would seem that he was right.....but he gets your criticism and those lawmakers that scoffed at shutting down travel to/from China are given a pass.
Universal healthcare is not the answer. has it saved Italy? France? Great Britain? I'm pretty sure they are in as bad a shape as we are, and are less prepared for this pandemic.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:26 pm to dawgfan24348
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I'm not reading your link
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Sounds about right
I am not him...but since you are criticizing him....did you read my links?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:35 pm to Whiznot
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Our preparedness took a big hit when we waited two months to begin ramping up testing and the production of PPE. We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare and paid sick leave.
So, what date should all have this been done? Where were the circle jerking epidemiologists "two months" ago? Where are the major issues today? You have countless stories of no panic, over crowding or doctors wearing underwear on their head for masks.....
Where are we at?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:40 pm to DawgsLife
We should all stop watching the MSM for a week so the ratings drop and see how quickly they move onto something besides the virus. They have taken a very contagious, slightly more dangerous to certain demographic flu and turned it into a political weapon. Now they have a captive audience with everyone at home with nothing to do but watch TV and let the media scare us to death. Once the impeachment ended they had nothing to drive ratings and this was a very timely event for them. Not to mention an opportunity to put Trump in a no win situation. We gotta get off the MSM tit and start living our life instead of letting them keep us in fear.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:51 pm to GaDawg9977
It is something that needs to be taken very seriously. I do agree with the guys saying that this is going on all over the world. Most countries are quarantining and sequestering, so there is more to it than just a media fed frenzy.
Do I think the media is feeding into it? Absolutely.
Do I think the media is trying to leverage it to pump up ratings, and criticize Trump? Absolutely.
Do I think the Democrats will use this as another excuse to Impeach Trump? Absolutely.
Instead of trying to work together we have way too many people on both sides of the aisle pointing fingers and doing everything possible to make the other side look bad. I think this stance by people cost us more lives than anything.
Encouraging citizens to go to the movies, parades and live their lives normally at the start aided in infecting more people and caused the virus to spread exponentially. Governors refusing to use some of the tools at their disposal because it was recommended by Trump aided in sick people getting worse and dying.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is causing this Pandemic to be worse than it should have been. AND, we should have been more prepared, too. There is enough blame to go around. Second helpings for everybody.
Do I think the media is feeding into it? Absolutely.
Do I think the media is trying to leverage it to pump up ratings, and criticize Trump? Absolutely.
Do I think the Democrats will use this as another excuse to Impeach Trump? Absolutely.
Instead of trying to work together we have way too many people on both sides of the aisle pointing fingers and doing everything possible to make the other side look bad. I think this stance by people cost us more lives than anything.
Encouraging citizens to go to the movies, parades and live their lives normally at the start aided in infecting more people and caused the virus to spread exponentially. Governors refusing to use some of the tools at their disposal because it was recommended by Trump aided in sick people getting worse and dying.
Trump Derangement Syndrome is causing this Pandemic to be worse than it should have been. AND, we should have been more prepared, too. There is enough blame to go around. Second helpings for everybody.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 3:56 pm to Whiznot
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We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare and paid sick leave.
If anything,this has proved big govt institutions have failed miserably across
the globe and here,while decentralization
and private enterprise has worked.
Look at the Kinsa technology you showed me.So unbelievably simple but it could have been a huge game changer had one of these been in every Elementary school and nursing home in the country years ago and it came from the private sector.Geez,with all the BILLIONS we funnel to the CDC aand NIH every year with all their scientist and thousands of employees and NO ONE could come up with an idea as simple as fever tracking? Hell,this shoulda been done YEARS ago manually.
Look at SK.The CEO of a private lab came up with test very early on because of his expirence with SARS.
Look at Germany.They left the testing and regulations of the tests up to individual
states.If Trump did this back in January you guys would have had a noose around his neck.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:02 pm to Whiznot
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We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare
that that’s your take away from this. Somehow a pandemic would be the one time the government gets something right, correct?This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:16 pm to Whiznot
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Stanford educated scientist
Got one for you too....
John P.A. Ioannidis
John P.A. Ioannidis is professor of medicine and professor of epidemiology and population health, as well as professor by courtesy of biomedical data science at Stanford University School of Medicine, professor by courtesy of statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS) at Stanford University.
This someone you should listen to or not?
ETA: Whiznutjob googling this guy right now to determine if what he said falls in line with the MSM bullshite that he has been regurgitating over and over again....
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:59 pm to IT_Dawg
Fourth straight day of falling hospitalization rate in GA.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:10 pm to DawgsLife
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Encouraging citizens to go to the movies, parades and live their lives normally at the start aided in infecting more people and caused the virus to spread exponentially. Governors refusing to use some of the tools at their disposal because it was recommended by Trump aided in sick people getting worse and dying.
So what are we suppose to do? Stay shacked up, unemployed, and living off the government for the next 12-18 months until a “vaccine” is found? Sounds a lot like many countries we don’t like very much. Clovid-19 ain’t disappearing — EVER! Coronavirus has been around forever and this is just another strand. Nothing showing it won’t act like others as far as mutations, seasonality, etc. People can do things to protect themselves from a lot of things. It’s not every americans responsibility to sacrifice their livelihood because they choose not to. Government doesn’t make cheeseburgers illegal even though they can lead to heart disease IN SOME PEOPLE. We can’t let the government take all of our freedoms in the name of “safety”.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:13 pm to deeprig9
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Fourth straight day of falling hospitalization rate in GA.
It's the calm before the 700,000 hospitalization storm in Georgia!!!!
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:14 pm to Whiznot
I cant force you to answer, but I am genuinely curious as to your explanation of
What does this mean to you?
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It's either bite the bullet hard or say goodbye to the healthcare system and the economy
What does this mean to you?
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:23 pm to GaDawg9977
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living off the government
You sir, have hit the nail on the head. Please step into the circle with the rest of the winners.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:32 pm to IT_Dawg
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This is actual people going to hospitals to see the mass hysteria and crazy long lines and dead bodies on the street.... LINK
Of course you trash cnn, but when your sources are conspiracy theorist Wack Jobs, it’s a bad look for your case.
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he said they are now forcing mandatory PO from most of the staff amid empty ORs and ER.
OR’s are essentially shut down everywhere, and people staying quarantined certainly helps keep people out of ER.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 5:35 pm to IT_Dawg
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looks like the ACLU was all over "Trump's administration" on February 6.
And now your next source is the ACLU? You are running on empty.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 6:06 pm to Whiznot
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We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare and paid sick leave.
This comment is just so off base I dont even know where to begin.
Posted on 4/5/20 at 6:08 pm to Whiznot
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We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare and paid sick leave.
Just real quick, looking at this logically, most of the current measures have been put into place to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. What do you think would happen if anyone and everyone could go to a hospital without concern for coverage or payment? Will there be patients there that have no real reason to be there clogging up the system.
And what does universal healthcare have to do with having enough PPE on hand. Oh, wait, nothing. And paid sick leave? Almost every employer offers paid sick leave and a lot have also been increasing that time and / or allowing time off for Covid 19 with pay.
This is just opportunistic BS from you and other libs to push for universal healthcare. And I find opportunistic political agendas during this pandemic aggravating.
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 4/5/20 at 6:13 pm to djsdawg
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And now your next source is the ACLU? You are running on empty.
That wasn’t my source, you dult. Read the article and what I said. You have moved your goal posts yet again, this time for complaining of actions in January to February. I am giving you evidence, of a very large organization that is responsible for fighting for the rights of all citizens, being pissed at Trump administration for actions he took in February. Now where do you want to dance? Should we talk about March and how the hospitals Trump had built or shipped are empty? Should we talk about how he lifted liability for a private company to produce more N95 masks and has now initiated the DPA to ensure they stay in the US? Where is the shortfall?
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 6:25 pm
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