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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:30 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:30 am to Crowknowsbest
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Very few people paying rent in major American cities can afford to set aside that much.
Agree to disagree. The entire point of ramsey is for the every day man/woman.
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Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:33 am to Crowknowsbest
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current situation is a boondoggle
Agree
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In the absence of good information, politicians are making political decisions with devastating economic and social costs
Agree
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than would ever have been medically effected by this virus
That's part of the unknown. But I definitely think it is probable.
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do not find that acceptable
I dont think you know what this quote means.
Are you going to sue?
Are you going to disobey?
Protest?
Vote them out?
How do you not accept it?
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:35 am to FinleyStreet
Today this thread is officially 1 month old.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:38 am to meansonny
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I dont think you know what this quote means.
Are you going to sue?
Are you going to disobey?
Protest?
Vote them out?
How do you not accept it?
I will vote against people who I think are active players in this decision-making and speak out at every opportunity to whoever wants to listen.
I expect societal unrest and disobedience is likely if these restrictions last longer than a few more weeks, regardless of my feelings on the matter. $1200 isn't going to get it done for many, never mind the social and psychological issues that will undoubtedly become a significant issue.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 8:51 am to deeprig9
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“Data from China’s own customs agency points to an attempt to corner the world market in PPE like gloves, goggles, and masks through massive increased purchases – even as China, the world’s largest PPE manufacturer, was restricting exports,” the official said.
LINK
China needs to be dealt with in a very serious way.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:15 am to MacDawg
Hopefully we don't have to rely on these ratfinks for anything else ever again.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:32 am to DawgsLife
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However, one thing that is helping us weather the financial aspect of this storm is out Emergency Fund. Dave Ramsey suggests people have 3-6 months of take home wages in a savings account for just such emergencies. Stuff like this and loss of job, car breakdowns, etc.
Always nice to have one when you can. Unfortunately, a lot of people can’t put away that much when they’re younger and have to pay off different debts/bills.
Ramsey has some good thoughts, but also others that make me question his financial knowledge (e.g, not using credit cards). I do think he is really good for people with spending issues though.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:43 am to Dawgsontop34
Posted on 4/6/20 at 9:57 am to Whiznot
Over a thousand Americans were dead including over 100 children before President Obama declared a National State of Emergency in his response to the Swine Flu virus. Trump declared an emergency after only 48 most of which were elderly in a nursing home in Washington State; none of the deaths were children. I seriously doubt if you were bitching about Obama's slow response at the time, Mr. Hack.
Trump also halted all flights to and from China and later did the same for European flights. Meanwhile liberal progressives were screaming racism and that this action was part of Trump's ongoing war against immigration. Obama would have never taken such decisive action for fear of angering his liberal base. I'm guessing that if you were intellectually honest, you also considered it an overreaction at the time and opposed President Trump's actions per usual.
Trump also halted all flights to and from China and later did the same for European flights. Meanwhile liberal progressives were screaming racism and that this action was part of Trump's ongoing war against immigration. Obama would have never taken such decisive action for fear of angering his liberal base. I'm guessing that if you were intellectually honest, you also considered it an overreaction at the time and opposed President Trump's actions per usual.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:12 am to deeprig9
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:48 am to Whiznot
You are going to quote the Bulwark?? Seriously? 
Bill Kristol would do ANYTHING to bring down trump
Bill Kristol would do ANYTHING to bring down trump
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:57 am to Crowknowsbest
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This isn’t realistic for most Americans,
Sure it is. I checked and my wife and I have 10 months in our savings account. It's a matter of discipline. People can do it, but most people do not have the will to do it. At our peak my wife and I made about $120,000.00 a year. We were not and are not rich. While doing that we gave between 10-15% to our church, and helped people in need from time to time.
It just a matter of living within and even below your means until you get bills paid off. The problem is most people live beyond their means and borrow money and use credit cards too much.
I don't agree with everything Dave Ramsey says, but I do agree with about 95%.
quote:We are not having to, but for some who do have to....what is the alternative?
nor is it acceptable to have to burn through this savings due to a government-mandated shutdown.
Ramsey has a saying. "Live like nobody else, so you can live like nobody else."
I suspect you are young enough that if you read his books and took his advice you could easily retire early and have a huge nest egg so you can do all the things you've dreamed of.
The key: Be disciplined.
BTW....I retired when I was 55. Now we can travel and pretty much buy what we want when we want. I work when I want and if I want. We pay cash for our cars, and have given our last two cars away to people who needed them. (Note: We save the money that is in our budget until we can pay cash for them, and we drive the cars for 10 or so years)
Posted on 4/6/20 at 11:59 am to tgdawg68
What I linked comes directly from the Trump administration. The HHS inspector general surveyed hospital administrations. The watchdog's entire report is there for you to read.
You are free to believe bullshite from Deeprig or you can read the HHS survey and learn what is really happening in our hospitals.
You are free to believe bullshite from Deeprig or you can read the HHS survey and learn what is really happening in our hospitals.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:03 pm to Whiznot
hack 
keep up the good work
keep up the good workPosted on 4/6/20 at 12:08 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Always nice to have one when you can. Unfortunately, a lot of people can’t put away that much when they’re younger and have to pay off different debts/bills.
I get it. But I was young once, too. (A long, long time ago!)
I always used the excuse that I couldn't afford to get into my companys 401K. But when I did....my wife and I lived (and still do) under a fairly strict budget. The only thing we owe money on is our house, and if we wanted to (Or had to) we could pay it off tomorrow.
You have to start young, though. Well, the younger you start the better off you will be. Is it easy? Not really. You can't do what other people do...or live the way they live.
Look up a book called "The Millionaire Next Door" by by Thomas J. Stanley and William D. Danko...then read Dave Ramsey's book "The Total Money Makeover".
They will open your eyes to a lot of things. It's not about looking like you have money....it's about actually having it. Most people that look like they have money actually owe a ton of money.
My apologies. I didn't mean to hijack this thread and turn it into a Financial seminar. Finances have always been an interest of mine.
ETA
The credit card thing is an area I part ways with him. We use credit cards, but we make sure we can pay them off every single month. I don't remember ever having to pay interest on a credit card. I'm sure it has happened, but I don't remember it.
If anybody else wants to discuss finances start another thread. I'll keep an eye on it and will join in on it, but I don't want to start a thread if nobody is really interested. And, that will keep us from derailing this thread anymore than we (I) already have.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:23 pm to Whiznot
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bullshite from Deeprig
Noon numbers are out.
In GA:
5 of the last six days have falling or flatlined new cases to new tests.
5 straight days of falling or flatlined daily new hospitalization.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:44 pm to Whiznot
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We are all threatened by our lack of universal healthcare and paid sick leave.
That quote right there is solid proof that not only are you a partisan hack but also a total moron.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:48 pm to tgdawg68
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That quote right there is solid proof that not only are you a partisan hack but also a total moron.
Add it to his pile.
Posted on 4/6/20 at 12:52 pm to deeprig9
Looks like the daily case numbers finally decreased in the U.S. on 4-4-2020. This is from the Johns Hopkins Coronavirus tracking website: Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Tracking
This is the daily increase graph for the U.S.
This is the daily increase graph for the U.S.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/6/20 at 1:13 pm to GurleyGirl
The CDC isn't open on weekends. Look back and you will find a dip each weekend. I was fooled the first time I saw new cases decline. Later I discovered the reason for the decline.
Here is the graph that fooled me into having hope of a turnaround.
It wasn't to be though. Cases jumped way up in the days after.
Here is the graph that fooled me into having hope of a turnaround.
It wasn't to be though. Cases jumped way up in the days after.
This post was edited on 4/6/20 at 1:29 pm
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