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re: OT- Teacher Pay
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:07 pm to SquatchDawg
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:07 pm to SquatchDawg
Georgia teacher retirement pays 60% of your salary the last 3 years before you retired
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Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:09 pm to AllDawg
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My wife has been teaching for 18 years with a masters and makes like 55. A lot of teachers get a specialist or doctorate towards the end just ahead of Georgia teacher retirement. Some of those salaries maybe skewing the numbers just a little bit.
Accurate, my wife has been teaching for 7 years and her steps were frozen for years. She makes less than 40k. She is ESE and Reading certified as well as all of the primary subjects. It would take her nearly 20 years of accurate steps to hit 55k.
In comparison to my career, as a Network Engineer I started my career over 10 years ago at 55k. I'm now close to six figures in few more years than how long she's been in her primary career.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:15 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
My wife is at some high school drama thing. I’m texting her about this thread and she’s enjoying this talk about how well off two married teachers would be
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:29 pm to AllDawg
Teaching requires a massive institutional overhaul, I know that much. Some of the state requirements are so dumb. One of my friends is a teacher and he can't fail anyone, even if they deserve it. He's required to retest the student until he passes. He has no control over what he teaches either. It's all determined by the state or a school board, or whatever. Intelligent people don't want to work in that kind of environment. I know a few people who I graduated high school with who are now teachers and they are total morons. It's sad, really. I used to think home school was for weirdos but I'm not convinced that's the case these days. I realize that there are some good ones out there, but they are rare.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:31 pm to WG_Dawg
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What can be done about it?
Decertify and ban (at least for public schools) any and all teacher's unions.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:40 pm to FaCubeItches
The teachers union in Georgia is a union in name only. It serves very little benefit to Georgia teachers.
Teachers unions in New York are quite different. They do protect their members.
Teachers unions in New York are quite different. They do protect their members.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:42 pm to FaCubeItches
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Decertify and ban (at least for public schools) any and all teacher's unions.
Which teacher's union in Georgia would you ban?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:46 pm to deeprig9
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Do it immediately. Special Ed. You will get a job starting in the 70's
bullshite, most places don't pay you more for the subject you teach. And the places who do only pay a $1000 or more.
And your friend was either yanking your chain or he has been teaching for 25 plus years with multiple degrees.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 6:46 pm to deeprig9
6 figures aint what it used to be baw
Posted on 5/3/18 at 7:40 pm to AllDawg
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Georgia teacher retirement pays 60% of your salary the last 3 years before you retired
And health ins is in addition to this correct? Don’t they get health to 65?
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 8:17 pm to WG_Dawg
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In Georgia, the average public school teacher salary is $54,602.
So what's the low end vs the high end after someone has done it till retirement?
Does this include the high school principal who is at evening school events every night or just teachers?
Posted on 5/3/18 at 8:30 pm to meansonny
My mother was a career teacher and retired from Gwinnet after teaching all over Ga so I have nothing but respect for teachers. My comments were about compensation only...not their work or the obvious problems with parents and kids nowadays.
Those pensions are most definitely a perk and far outweigh SS in my opinion. Also having health benefits to 65 is huge as well. My dad also worked for the state and they’ll never have to worry about money...AFTER retiring in their late 50’s. It may not be that way now but the lifetime of lower pay was a great deal considering how they now have no financial concerns. (Thank God)
Not saying you’ll be rich...but I know several corporate guys who worked into their late 60s because they didn’t save enough to retire and others get their savings wiped out due to needing skilled/home care or market crashes.
Having a guaranteed income in retirement is gold.
Those pensions are most definitely a perk and far outweigh SS in my opinion. Also having health benefits to 65 is huge as well. My dad also worked for the state and they’ll never have to worry about money...AFTER retiring in their late 50’s. It may not be that way now but the lifetime of lower pay was a great deal considering how they now have no financial concerns. (Thank God)
Not saying you’ll be rich...but I know several corporate guys who worked into their late 60s because they didn’t save enough to retire and others get their savings wiped out due to needing skilled/home care or market crashes.
Having a guaranteed income in retirement is gold.
This post was edited on 5/3/18 at 8:32 pm
Posted on 5/3/18 at 9:52 pm to SquatchDawg
I assume she gets health benefits in addition. I’ll ask her if you need the info. I believe she does as I’m self employed and she hasn’t mentioned it.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:09 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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In comparison to my career, as a Network Engineer I started my career over 10 years ago at 55k. I'm now close to six figures
Slightly off-topic, but if you are ten years into [capitalized] Network Engineering and you aren't already into six figures, you probably aren't actually a network engineer. You are probably a network administrator.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:11 pm to deeprig9
I think their base starting pay is actually low to mid 30s with a 4 year degree. Mid 50s seems more in line with a Masters or maybe even that 6 year specialist thing they have. But to get to your question: My wife took a non-teaching job in the school system a while back (social worker). Up until then, I assumed the job of a school teacher was gravy. But after learning from my wife how much stress the teachers are truly under, I say no, they are not overpaid. I’m referring to good teachers. Bad teachers shouldn’t have a job just like bad anything (fill in the occupation). They also put in considerable time after hours whether at school or home. That’s another thing I didn’t realize. I think two married teachers making 100k is very fair. That’s middle class living. Even in rural GA, you’re not gonna get rich off that salary- much less in a metro area.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:25 pm to deeprig9
Dude. Why are we getting into a dick size contest here.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 10:37 pm to AllDawg
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Dude. Why are we getting into a dick size contest here.
I'm not measuring my dick against anyone. Stick your dick out, it gets cut off. I know better than that.
I'm just throwing out facts and near-facts.
Posted on 5/3/18 at 11:41 pm to AllDawg
No need. Just saying the 60% or salary PLUS benefits isn’t such a raw deal if you’re just hanging out getting a check.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:23 am to SquatchDawg
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quote: Georgia teacher retirement pays 60% of your salary the last 3 years before you retired And health ins is in addition to this correct? Don’t they get health to 65?
TRS pays 60% of your two highest years salary after 30 years. You also get to continue your insurance (but you have to continue paying the contributions). Teacher put in 7% of their salary from the day they start for these benefits. If they leave prior to vesting (10 years) it’s a horrible deal, they get that money returned with 4% SIMPLE INTEREST on it.
Posted on 5/4/18 at 6:43 am to deeprig9
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Slightly off-topic, but if you are ten years into [capitalized] Network Engineering and you aren't already into six figures, you probably aren't actually a network engineer. You are probably a network administrator.
Lots of companies tag tech employees with the Engineer title instead of technician or admin because it fits in nicely with the “professional exemption” under the flsa. The truth is that most should be hourly, not salary employees. As a “Network Engineer” of 20 years I often feel more like a technician or administrator. It’s a high tech “trade” job. “Data plumber” if you will. Either way it’s a fun And challenging job. People just want their data moved from point a to b. If you can help make that happen, they’ll pay you to avoid having to understand how it happens. My role let’s me wear a suit at times and a hard hat at other times. I troubleshoot, repair, maintain, design, install, configure anything. The most fun to me is troubleshooting issues. Any chance to break out my laptop and stare at a pcap for an hour.
The same is true of “system engineers” running the servers. Or “cloud engineers” etc.
This post was edited on 5/4/18 at 6:48 am
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