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Posted on 9/29/14 at 9:42 am to MSGADawg5988
Seth Emerson who covers Georgia for the Macon Telegraph says Mason is throwing just fine in practice.
It's a mental thing.
It's a mental thing.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:07 am to samson'sseed
That could be the cause for those soft throws. He doesn't want to throw too hard and overthrow or something, but regardless of what it is, he needs to get with the program. He needs to play the best he can according to his abilities. Otherwise we might as well give BR or FB some reps and experience.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:40 am to samson'sseed
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says Mason is throwing just fine in practice
Well, practice and real life are two different beasts. It's more than mental - he did a lot of the things last season, too.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 10:46 am to FooManChoo
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That could be the cause for those soft throws. He doesn't want to throw too hard and overthrow or something
I don't know what he's doing in practice, but in games when the ball floats he's often not stepping into his throws. Sometimes he's on his back foot, sometimes his feet are spread and his weight is evenly distributed. But, too often, IMO, he fails to plant on his right foot, step forward and end up with his weight on his left when he releases the ball. When there's any kind of pass rush it gets more noticeable, and he also seems to lose his ability to focus on receivers. That encourages defenses to attack even more.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:34 pm to wdhalgren
If it is a problem with his mechanics, I don't have much hope for improvement between now and the end of the season. He has supposedly been working on that stuff for the past 4 years and his 4th game of the season has looked the worst so far.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 1:58 pm to FooManChoo
I'm off the Hutson Mason bandwagon. But I'm not sure we can win with the inexperienced young bucks either.
Huston doesn't have the eye of the tiger....seriously. He looks bewildered and ready to cry at the drop of a hat. 100% Beta Male. "Air Murr" may have been a skinny jean wearing, man purse toting hipster but he was a gamer. A winner. Alpha male albeit a little "metro" but that's ok for a QB.
Noodle arm.
Fumbling snaps.
Flighty feet in the pocket.
Stupid decisions i.e. 1st and Goal on the 4 @ USCe.
And what was once his biggest selling point Mr. Isn't Going To Get You Beat is now throwing picks.
Todd Gurley can only do so much. He has stepped into the role that a QB usually takes and is the team leader.
Huston doesn't have the eye of the tiger....seriously. He looks bewildered and ready to cry at the drop of a hat. 100% Beta Male. "Air Murr" may have been a skinny jean wearing, man purse toting hipster but he was a gamer. A winner. Alpha male albeit a little "metro" but that's ok for a QB.
Noodle arm.
Fumbling snaps.
Flighty feet in the pocket.
Stupid decisions i.e. 1st and Goal on the 4 @ USCe.
And what was once his biggest selling point Mr. Isn't Going To Get You Beat is now throwing picks.
Todd Gurley can only do so much. He has stepped into the role that a QB usually takes and is the team leader.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:01 pm to FooManChoo
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Otherwise we might as well give BR or FB some reps and experience.
Coaches need to at least threaten this as a distinct possibility. Put some pressure on his arse. I still think Mason gives us the best chance of winning.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:05 pm to PortlyDawg
I think we need to see a lot more of Brice Ramsey with established leads. Ramsey was an ESPN 300 with a grade of 84, and he has been in the system a little while now. Mason hasn't performed what I would call poor until this past Saturday. He should get a pass until we get a full complement of receivers back, because lets face it, there has been very little separation from the defensive backs from our receivers, especially against Tennessee.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:17 pm to samson'sseed
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Seth Emerson who covers Georgia for the Macon Telegraph says Mason is throwing just fine in practice.
It's a mental thing.
Well from what I have seen out of our Pass D, that ain't saying much, and he is up against the scout team most of the time.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:27 pm to samson'sseed
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Seth Emerson who covers Georgia for the Macon Telegraph says Mason is throwing just fine in practice.
You telling me even Mason looks good against our secondary freak
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:39 pm to JCdawg
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Ramsey was an ESPN 300 with a grade of 84
That means nothing right now.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:30 pm to gatorhata9
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Ramsey was an ESPN 300 with a grade of 84
That means nothing right now.
Well it kinda does. It means he was highly recruited individual, and one that Mark Richt wanted. We never know what recruits can do until you put them out there. I hope we can get a comfortable lead this weekend to see a little more of Ramsey's arm.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:39 pm to JCdawg
I have said all along it is mental.
His delay in making the decision is the problem. He just doesn't have the confidence. The sad part is his protection has been solid (especially compared to that of the teams we have faced).
Throwing to several of the same receivers as Murray, I have seen what appear to be more bad routes from receivers this year than EVER under Murray. That tells me it isn't the receiver but the QB.
My hope was they wouldn't run the ball much versus Troy and let him get some rhythm.
The question is, can the mental be fixed with even better teams and more pressure coming up. Especially now that his name and performance is the big story?
His delay in making the decision is the problem. He just doesn't have the confidence. The sad part is his protection has been solid (especially compared to that of the teams we have faced).
Throwing to several of the same receivers as Murray, I have seen what appear to be more bad routes from receivers this year than EVER under Murray. That tells me it isn't the receiver but the QB.
My hope was they wouldn't run the ball much versus Troy and let him get some rhythm.
The question is, can the mental be fixed with even better teams and more pressure coming up. Especially now that his name and performance is the big story?
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:40 pm to gatorhata9
You gotta look at it as Mason is 3-1 as a starter this year. It's still his team and until he is the MAIN reason that we lose multiple games, then it's still his job. He's been waiting for 4 years to start so give him a few games with our best WRs coming back. The season isn't lost and the worst thing we can do is put in a questionable, young QB to start turning the ball over and expecting our defense to save us. That's just not going to happen. Mason has turned it over a grand total of 2 times in four games. Minus some shite play calling that results in 3 and outs, Mason has been the best player on our defense. We are still averaging 45.3 points a game.
I know a lot of this has to do with Gurley and the running game, but if you think about it, we are bitching about a QB in an offense that scores 45 points and puts up 462 yards a game. And this is without 3 of our best WRs, one or two being our only deep threats.
Let the season play out and let's not put our offense in jeopardy with a defense that won't be able to pick up the slack from any extra turnovers caused by a change in QBs.
Also, just to let you know. We are a missed FG, phantom holding call, or missing link away from being 4-0 and possibly a top 5 team. Let that sink in for a minute.
I know a lot of this has to do with Gurley and the running game, but if you think about it, we are bitching about a QB in an offense that scores 45 points and puts up 462 yards a game. And this is without 3 of our best WRs, one or two being our only deep threats.
Let the season play out and let's not put our offense in jeopardy with a defense that won't be able to pick up the slack from any extra turnovers caused by a change in QBs.
Also, just to let you know. We are a missed FG, phantom holding call, or missing link away from being 4-0 and possibly a top 5 team. Let that sink in for a minute.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:45 pm to Shockley03
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You gotta look at it as Mason is 3-1 as a starter this year. It's still his team and until he is the MAIN reason that we lose multiple games, then it's still his job. He's been waiting for 4 years to start so give him a few games with our best WRs coming back. The season isn't lost and the worst thing we can do is put in a questionable, young QB to start turning the ball over and expecting our defense to save us. That's just not going to happen. Mason has turned it over a grand total of 2 times in four games. Minus some shite play calling that results in 3 and outs, Mason has been the best player on our defense. We are still averaging 45.3 points a game.
I know a lot of this has to do with Gurley and the running game, but if you think about it, we are bitching about a QB in an offense that scores 45 points and puts up 462 yards a game. And this is without 3 of our best WRs, one or two being our only deep threats.
Let the season play out and let's not put our offense in jeopardy with a defense that won't be able to pick up the slack from any extra turnovers caused by a change in QBs.
Also, just to let you know. We are a missed FG, phantom holding call, or missing link away from being 4-0 and possibly a top 5 team. Let that sink in for a minute.
Well put.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:53 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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Well, practice and real life are two different beasts
Yep. Or as some guy in a movie said: "Look, good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living? That's something else."
Posted on 9/29/14 at 4:33 pm to jodeaux
Time for Briceun the nice 'un.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 5:29 pm to Shockley03
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Shockley03
I think you have made some really good points. Seriously. And while I have lost faith that Mason can do what is necessary I am not ready to bench him. I'm not against it but I am not pushing for it. As Chernoff said earlier on the radio we all have the propensity to want to see the back ups because we haven't seen them. We don't know what they provide, good or bad. You don't want to use Gurley's last year trying to build up the future QB.
That's not a vote of confidence for Mason from me but it is an indictment of what I think of our QBs.
That said,
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I know a lot of this has to do with Gurley and the running game, but if you think about it, we are bitching about a QB in an offense that scores 45 points and puts up 462 yards a game. And this is without 3 of our best WRs, one or two being our only deep threats.
I think we bitch because Mason has passed for 131 vs Clemson, 191 vs a putrid USCe pass defense, 97 vs Troy (whatever, they handed it off), and a rough 147 vs Tennessee. Listing off the total offense stats tells a small part of the story.
Mason, outside of UT, hasn't derailed the offense...but he is not doing his part. Otherwise I agree with what you said. But let's not credit him too much for what the offense has done. That's Based Gurley and the rest of the backs and I dare to say...the OL.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 6:16 pm to Shockley03
Only one of those arguments has any merit, IMO. It's true that Mason hasn't had Mitchell and JSW and Rumph, so maybe he'll get better. Then again, those three only accounted for about 400 of nearly 3100 yards passing Murray had in about 10 games last season, and Murray also didn't have Conley and Bennett for two games apiece. Improvement in the passing offense will require HM to improve his game dramatically, IMO.
As for the offensive statistics, they're not a useful indicator of Mason's value added. The running backs have carried the load which, if anything, should have made the passing game more efficient. The relevant question is does Mason have the ability to make this offense more balanced, because what he's done so far will be inadequate to win the SEC East, much less the SEC IMO.
As for the offensive statistics, they're not a useful indicator of Mason's value added. The running backs have carried the load which, if anything, should have made the passing game more efficient. The relevant question is does Mason have the ability to make this offense more balanced, because what he's done so far will be inadequate to win the SEC East, much less the SEC IMO.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 6:26 pm
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