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Looks like the Falcons coulda had Gurley and a better DE than Beasley

Posted on 1/10/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 4:12 pm
Preston Smith, who's from Lithonia and now in the NFL. Dawgs missed on him to.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7789 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 4:19 pm to
Yeah but Demitroff still gets his hair gel.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42483 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:02 pm to
Beasley was a very good pass rusher this year and a solid pick at 10. RB wasn't a problem for the Falcons this year from what I recall.

I'm not a Falcons fan, but I think that they made the right decision in their draft.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22844 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:10 pm to
I wouldn't say very good but he was ok for a rookie. Definitely the right pick over Gurley.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:14 pm to
Except for Preston who was a 2nd rounder and had more tackles and 2x the sacks. I'd take him and anyone else with our 1st round pick.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:22 pm to
Gurley is twice the back freeman is and will be ROY, hard to believe the dirty birds missed on him as he was in their backyard. Give credit to St. Louis for taking the risk. They hit a home run.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:23 pm to
Beasley wasn't the 10th pick tho...
Posted by AllDawg
Evans GA
Member since Jan 2014
1516 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:40 pm to
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Except for Preston who was a 2nd rounder and had more tackles and 2x the sacks. I'd take him and anyone else with our 1st round pick.


Come back around the month before the draft and share your genius with us please
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7446 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:48 pm to
Beasley did not impress me. I'm hopeful he makes major improvement in year 2.

As others have said ... RB was a need but not a first round need.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 5:52 pm to
When you have the 8th overall pick coming off a year with the worst defense in the entire league you don't use that pick on a running back.
Posted by 3morereps
The Gym
Member since Jun 2015
6735 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 6:03 pm to
They shouldn't have picked Beasely at 8. A lot of better options were available, including a running back in Todd Gurley and many better defensive players. It's decisions like this that lead to the franchise's continued failure.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 6:09 pm to
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A lot of better options were available
Not really at our positions of need which were in the front 7 on defense.
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including a running back in Todd Gurley
You do realize we already have a young pro bowl running back on roster, right?
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 6:10 pm
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 6:39 pm to
You hindsight Monday morning GM's just suck.

Freeman didn't even start the first two games and also missed 1.9 games with a concussion and still put up 1730 ap yards (2nd in league) and lead the league in TD's with 14.

We didn't need Gurley.

And just to put Beasley in perspective, Khalil Mack only had 4 sacks, 9 QB hits, and 16 hurries his rookie year in 2014. This year he leads the league in sacks and hurries. Beasley had 4 sacks, 11 QB hits, and 17 hurries. Not to mention 4 batted passes, an int, and a couple forced fumbles.

You dumbasses would have been bitching about Khalil Mack after his rookie season too by your retarded hindsight logic.

Quit being bad at life.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:19 pm to
I know the hindsight thing is unfair. I noticed Beasley had few offers. Duke, east carolina, and Aladambama, including Clemson.

Kind of like the Pats #1 WR being a DII QB. Funny how teams that recognize talent are better than those that don't. Truth is the Falcons have a bunch of "need". The right draft could've knocked out 2 of those positions. If I got paid 7 digits to figure this stuff out I certainly couldn't do worse.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 8:56 pm to
So you would have had Freeman, Gurley, and Smith, essentially leaving overlap at the RB position while taking a complete flier on Preston Smith whom nobody realized would be better than Beasley in year one, otherwise he would have obviously been rated higher.

And instead, we have no superstar RB's overlapping each other, Beasley did as well as your typical rookie and will hopefully turn into a Khalil Mack level pass rusher in year two, and we got Jalen Collins who played lights out in the last 6 games of the season (179 snaps, only 3 receptions allowed in 14 targets, 2 pass defenses, and 9 tackles).

So it looks like we covered 3 positions instead of just two. And we don't have to play the hindsight game of BS to know this.
Posted by bigdawg7780
SC
Member since Oct 2013
2789 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:01 pm to
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When you have the 8th overall pick coming off a year with the worst defense in the entire league you don't use that pick on a running back




In the modern NFL you can have a meh defense and win the Superbowl you don't waste a top 10 pick on someone who isn't scoring touchdowns.
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 9:01 pm
Posted by AllDawg
Evans GA
Member since Jan 2014
1516 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:02 pm to
Why Antoine smith hasn't broken out somewhere perplexes me. He must be dumb as a box of nails and unable to understand pass protection because when he gets carries he gets yards.
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 9:04 pm
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:16 pm to
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In the modern NFL you can have a meh defense and win the Superbowl you don't waste a top 10 pick on someone who isn't scoring touchdowns.
No to all of this. Look at the top teams in the playoffs and they have great defenses. And we didn't have a meh defense before this year, we had the worst in the league. Also have you seen a draft recently and noticed the amount of linemen that get taken top-10 that aren't "scoring touchdowns"?
This post was edited on 1/10/16 at 9:17 pm
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44754 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:23 pm to
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In the modern NFL you can have a meh defense and win the Superbowl you don't waste a top 10 pick on someone who isn't scoring touchdowns


Which Super Bowl winning team had a meh defense?

Beasley was absolutely the right pick. He may not have had a great rookie season (and I'm sure a torn labrum played a part in this), but the Falcons had the worst pass rush in the league in 2014. In a division with Brees, Newton and Winston, pass rush is kind of important.

In the modern NFL, you can win the Super Bowl with a few meh RBs, as long as their skills compliment each other (2009 Saints, 2010 Packers, 2011 Giants, etc...). Devonta Freeman is not a meh RB. The Falcons already have a very good RB on the roster.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 1/10/16 at 9:38 pm to
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Come back around the month before the draft and share your genius with us please
Let me get paid millions like the GM and i'll easily get back with you on that, bud.

Anyway, Vic B never impressed me in college other than his measurable. Against our crappy line he was able to get contained, plus he does not have the size to play DE in the NFL. No telling on his coverage skills to play OLB.

I would of passed on Vic and Gurley would of been a steal at 10.
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