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re: Looks like the Falcons coulda had Gurley and a better DE than Beasley
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:50 pm to VADawg
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:50 pm to VADawg
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This is the problem, not for you specifically, but for a lot on this board. You guys do realize the Falcons have no obligation to take Georgia players and that their obligation is to take whoever they feel best fits their needs regardless of college, right?
I know you said this was not directed at me, but I will respond. They do not have that obligation, nor should they. They have to pick the best player available to meet the needs of the team. I agree with you 100% on this.
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Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:56 pm to Broncothor
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They also have an obligation to fill seats, bring in ratings and grow a fan base. All of which is boosted by drafting UGA players when the talent level is there.
Think about this, though, Bronc. Would you go watch a team full of UGA players that win half their games or go to see a playoff contender? MOST fans would pick the contender. And, we just missed the playoffs in spite of looking abysmal last season. And, what if Gurley had been drafted and got hurt? Or we didn't get Smith? We went with the biggest need and the best player available at that time. Good decision whether it works out or not. LOTS of picks don't work out. But you don't know if they will work out or not until the following year or two....sometimes longer.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 2:59 pm to td01241
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So you think it's smart to draft a position they don't need with the 8th pick so maybe a few more people will watch the game,
In fairness to Bronc.....we were needing a RB going into last years draft. Nobody could foresee Freeman's year. It was a bonus. Some did argue that if Gurley were available we should take him. BUT, most people, and certainly most of the experts said the Falcons HAD to have a pass rusher.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:41 pm to DawgsLife
We didn't need to draft a RB in the first round even if we didn't have Freeman on the roster. It's been proven a billion times you can get good running back play just about anywhere. It's a crap shoot. The same cannot be said about other positions, like LEO pass rushers. Is Gurley awesome? Yes. Is he a a step above most backs? Yes. Would it have been a horrible pick for Atlanta? Yes
Posted on 1/11/16 at 4:48 pm to td01241
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We didn't need to draft a RB in the first round
Almost no one does and if it does happen it is just one guy. With the rule changes, it is akin to Canadian football now. Throw it and throw it a lot.
I have no idea how these guys play DB now, damn near impossible. Course, I don't know what constitutes a legal catch anymore either. The rules and refs have damn near ruined the game. After any play of magnitude, everyone - players, coaches, announcers, fans are looking to see if there is a flag cause there usually is.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:24 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Again I do not believe Gurley is injury prone. Also when we speak of sprained ankles, it is hard to take that seriously as a real sports injury, like an ACL. If we call someone injury prone for ankle sprains, then who in the sports world hasn't sprained their ankle before? Now when you throw in the suspension that could cause doubts just b/c of them not getting more game film. However, T Gurley was the best RB in college, his freshman season. It is very easy to see Gurley's skill set on the field and I don't see how it couldn't translate to the NFL.
While true, you have to admit that two injuries in two years makes him suspect. I mean, if it were your money would you give a regular RB millions of dollars after having two injuries in two years with one of those injuries an injury that is very difficult to come back from? I think his suspension also gave an impression that he was a bit unreliable. I mean, we were all frustrated with it, weren't we?
Again...it is always easy to say what should have been done in a draft one or two years after the draft.
Plus look on any STL Rams message boards and see how their fans love the Gurley pick. WIth how he played this year, none of them guys are disappointed with him at that pick. Most of them credit a few wins just b/c of Gurley, since they have no qb.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:35 pm to SumterCoDawg
quote:No he isn't. L Bell is the best RB in the league. Plus going into next season, Gurley is >>> than AP. AP is a top 5 back for sure, even a top 3. However if you are a building a team for next season (since this one is over), then AP wouldn't be taken over LB or TG.
Still the best back in the league dumbfrick
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Notice how I said they don't draft running backs even anywhere in the first round.
Oh yeah, b/c for some reason you said this gem:
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NFL teams that have nice ring collections don't take running backs in the top 10 either.
Why don't super bowl winning teams not draft a RB in the top 10? Usually the team that wins the superbowl gets the last pick. Surely someone with your double digit IQ would know this by now.
Plus the Tampa (2003) is probably the last superbowl winning team to get a top 10 pick (note sure on this stat, just going off top of my head). So you act like all these teams winning superbowls get a top 10 pick regularly.
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A whopping 63 yards from Lacy, really killing it. Also he was a late second round pick and alfed blue was like a 5th round pick. There's great value in running backs later in the draft.
How fricking stupid are you dude? Do you just spout out shite and forget half the crap you say, only to keep contradicting yourself later on in the same thread?
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but running backs don't have much value because it's so hard to run the ball these days. Hell, Adrian Peterson who is the best at his position had 45 yards in a home playoff game today.
You speak of AP is the best RB in the NFL, yet it is so tough for RBs to get yards, which is why they don't have much value.
Thats why I showed that fat Lacy was able to get 63 yards on 12 carries which is far better than what the best RB in the NFL, AP, got. Yet it is so hard for these guys to get yards. Using your logic, why are these qbs getting such shitty passing yards? R Wilson 142 yards, Teddy B 146 yards. Using your retarded logic, you would say that qbs are overvalued now, since it is so hard to get passing yards? :rotflmao:
Also look at all the teams that drafted a qb in the 1st round or even top 10, and how many of them turned out to be busts. You act like drafting a qb or Olineman in the top 10 is a gimmie. Some guys you can just tell they will be great in the NFL, AJ Green, Julio, Gurley, etc. I also thought M Gordon was overrated going into the draft and not worth a 1st round pick. But then again some people can just see "it" while people like you need the "experts" to tell you what to think.
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 1/11/16 at 6:49 pm to DawgGONIT
You really do have the downs and are not worth arguing with, I can't wait for you to tell us this time next year all the great picks you would've made if somebody would just give you millions like GMs get.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 8:45 pm to DawgGONIT
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Thats why I showed that fat Lacy was able to get 63 yards on 12 carries which is far better than what the best RB in the NFL, AP, got.
Lacy ran against the Redskins while Peterson ran against the Seahawks.
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R Wilson 142 yards, Teddy B 146
Have you ever been outside in -6 degree weather? It's pretty fricking hard to throw a ball when it's that cold and windy out. There comes a point where you can't feel your hands.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:12 pm to VADawg
quote:Did you even read what I said and was replying to? I was saying that as a joke b/c that is what that one dude was talking about, since AP didn't do well. He said since yards are hard to come by for RB's that aren't as valuable. So I was using the same logic for those qbs.
Have you ever been outside in -6 degree weather? It's pretty fricking hard to throw a ball when it's that cold and windy out. There comes a point where you can't feel your hands.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:21 pm to SumterCoDawg
quote:Straman. Got ya.
You really do have the downs and are not worth arguing with, I can't wait for you to tell us this time next year all the great picks you would've made if somebody would just give you millions like GMs get.
I called our Oline being overrated this season. I called B Ramsey sucking balls after last season in his limited play. I missed on L Carter but I think the penalty (ejection) affected his play as he didn't play the same after that. I also called Richt overrated as a qb coach which showed this season w/out Bobo.
I guarantee if I were making millions to make picks for NFL teams, I would do way better than your down syndrome arse. I would do much better than T Dimitroff as well. But since I don't get paid millions, then I will just go with my couple of obvious picks that happen every year that fans get right.
Here goes one for you, since tons of guys want to compare M Mitchell to OBJ, I will say Mitchell won't do much at all in the NFL. Maybe if he goes to a team with a top 5 qb, then be productive, but he will be just AVG in the NFL at best.
L Floyd will keep getting exposed unless he can seriously bulk up and play better vs the run.
Theus may put it together in the NFL once he gets good coaching, but I doubt it. I think he makes NFL teams and may be a starter, but never a star or a a semi big name.
J Houston may be a practice squad guy or a career backup if he can stay in the NFL at all.
J Jenkins will probably be a better PRO than Floyd.
J Ganus will make a NFL team and may end up like a slightly better P Worrilow. I will say this thought, Ganus has some game but 1 year is hard to get an accurate picture of him.
Who else you want me to evaluate on record?
This post was edited on 1/11/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:32 pm to DawgGONIT
quote:Who in the motherfrick has said this? Really depends on where he goes but I can see him being a productive guy for a while, not great but just a solid option.
since tons of guys want to compare M Mitchell to OBJ
quote:You mean a linebacker who continually got exposed against the run will continue to do so against stronger and better competition, genius you are. But yes I agree, I think he's way too high in the mock drafts I've seen.
L Floyd will keep getting exposed unless he can seriously bulk up and play better vs the run.
I agree with most of your other predictions as would most uga fans bc we watch all the games, knowing your favorite team's players really well doesn't make you a good NFL GM though.
quote:No, no you didn't. When you're on the side of taking a running back in the top 10 in a league where throwing the ball and sound defense wins championships you're on the wrong side of the argument.
Straman. Got ya.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:37 pm to DawgGONIT
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J Houston may be a practice squad guy or a career backup if he can stay in the NFL at all.
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:39 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
I assumed he meant Kolton Houston but idk 
Posted on 1/11/16 at 9:46 pm to SumterCoDawg
That would make sense. I doubt he even makes a squad.
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