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Ledbetter's charges dropped

Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:14 pm
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Charges dropped due to illegally obtained evidence.

Hopefully UGA drops his suspension as well.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:27 pm to
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Crowknowsbest



Oh my god times really are changing.


Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:55 pm to
Doubt suspension is dropped, especially if he admitted to the incident to Kirby or another coach privately. UGA athletics rule that a player miss 10% for an alcohol related offense
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:56 pm to
There technically is no alcohol related offense now though.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 3:58 pm to
Unless, like I said, he copped to it privately to one of the coaches in which case he has to miss per UGA policy
Posted by Litigator
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 5:23 pm to
Yes, you have to remember the OJ kind of thing: just because there's no criminal conviction does not mean you escape consequences in civil or administrative proceedings. The exclusionary rule doesn't apply there.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 6:08 am to
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Yes, you have to remember the OJ kind of thing: just because there's no criminal conviction does not mean you escape consequences in civil or administrative proceedings. The exclusionary rule doesn't apply there.


Sadly this. Also, DawgNation has already indicated that it seems unlikely that the suspension would be dropped. LINK
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:48 am to
In the end, it doesn't really help with team vs police relations having the charges dropped on police error.

The team/school needs to keep his suspension in place if for nothing else to prevent others from feeling they can break rules and get away with it. Plus, really stupid for a high profile athlete to try to be using fake ID anyway. The suspension is a stupid tax.
Posted by K9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:24 am to
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Unless, like I said, he copped to it privately to one of the coaches in which case he has to miss per UGA policy



so if Eason tells Kirby he was drinking last night, he has to miss 10% of the games?

doubt it lol
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:41 am to
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so if Eason tells Kirby he was drinking last night, he has to miss 10% of the games?

doubt it lol

Kind of what I was thinking
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 11:47 am to
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Unless, like I said, he copped to it privately to one of the coaches in which case he has to miss per UGA policy


We know most of our players are drinking downtown, and they aren't suspended. Suspension should go with the charges.
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:09 pm to
Compare and contrast with the Bama tackle that has been charged with a felony and 2 misdemeanors . No suspension there.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/25/16 at 1:19 pm to
If mcgarity or whoever else is privy to the conversation, then yeah it has to happen. And even though the conviction won't occur, Ledbetter is still identified in a police report as being drunk underage and having a fake ID. The technicality of the cops acquiring his ID illegally doesn't erase the fact that he was drunk with a fake. Kind of hard to hide that and hard for the AD to justify dropping a suspension knowing it.

If you're going to drink underage downtown, know your limits and don't get caught doing it. If you're a junior or senior downtown and see one of the young guys hitting the bottle a little too hard, call him a ride. Go have fun but show some responsibility and accountability and some awareness that the moment you showed p on tv on NSD, you became a recognizable public figure. Fair or not, you have to act like one and expect to be disciplined like one if you're ever busted.
This post was edited on 5/25/16 at 1:20 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32817 posts
Posted on 5/25/16 at 10:25 pm to
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If mcgarity or whoever else is privy to the conversation, then yeah it has to happen.


Its a lot of words, so maybe I missed them, but where does it say that? Page 138 is where it starts.

LINK
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46442 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:21 am to
Pg 150 in the UGA compliance policy statement. Basically says that the athletic association and the players must remain knowledgable and compliant with all NCAA, sec, and UGA policies. Underage drinking is a violation of a uga school policy and athletics complies with that policy be mandating violators be suspended 10% of a season. Unless something else gives Kirby et al reason not to comply with that policy, he's going to be suspended.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:28 am to
So if McGarity or Kirby overhears Eason talking about how shitfaced he got the night before, he gets suspended for the first game?
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:32 am to
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so if Eason tells Kirby he was drinking last night, he has to miss 10% of the games?



If Eason is asked by Kirby and says "yes" then he will miss a game. And if Kirby Smart violates a university regulation by not suspending a player, then he is subject to penalty OR termination. It's in his contract.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:33 am to
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If Eason is asked by Kirby and says "yes" then he will miss a game. And if Kirby Smart violates a university regulation by not suspending a player, then he is subject to penalty OR termination. It's in his contract.


Damn. My coach would have been fired weekly.
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
46442 posts
Posted on 5/26/16 at 8:37 am to
There's a difference between overhearing a convo and having something written into a police report that is then published in a major paper
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