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Jake Fromm

Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:58 pm
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26638 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 10:58 pm
Will likely finish 2019 with a similar completion percentage to 2017, more yards than 2017, more TDs than 2017, less INTs than 2017 and possibly in less games.

All with a new OC and all new WRs.

The demise of our QB has been greatly exaggerated.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
47910 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 11:03 pm to
Preach.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:47 am to
No competition, Fields is a generational QB, but keep selling yourself

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42631 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:47 am to
His current passer rating is 146.

At this point in 2017, it was 167.

That’s quite the drop off.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16273 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:48 am to
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Will likely finish 2019


His Junior season

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with a similar completion percentage to 2017, more yards than 2017, more TDs than 2017, less INTs than 2017 and possibly in less games


compared to his true freshman season.


One would hope that a QBs stats would improve significantly from Freshman year to Junior year. His avg per completion and QBR has dropped off significantly from his freshman/sophomore year to this year. He has 4 straight games with below 50% completion percentage. Something is up with him, either injury or a terrible case of the yips. Either way, he's struggling.

Posted by Walkthedawg
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Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 6:50 am to
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2,654
51st
TD
37
3rd
INT
1
1st
QBR
93.7


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2,385
59th
TD
21
Tied-34th
INT
3
Tied-5th
QBR
76.6
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11496 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:02 am to
Come to the conclusion we are probably never going to know all the variables playing into what is “wrong”. The highly scientific eye test says things aren’t in sync. His stats have been good enough to win sans USCe where all the mistakes proved too much. My greatest concern is how we came out at the beginning of the Tech game and couldn’t execute when it appeared we were trying to get some passing rhythm established.

No matter what offensive scheme or opening of the playbook happens Sat, it still comes down to execution. Jake is gonna have to play without pause and dudes are gonna have to catch. Jake has proven he has that ability.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42631 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:06 am to
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greatest concern is how we came out at the beginning of the Tech game and couldn’t execute when it appeared we were trying to get some passing rhythm established.


It was an ugly start vs a terrible team, and it was mainly nothing but Fromm missing relatively simple throws.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11496 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:18 am to
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It was an ugly start vs a terrible team, and it was mainly nothing but Fromm missing relatively simple throws.


Agree. However, other factors are playing into why he couldn’t/didn’t execute. Hoping those get addressed so his confidence comes back.

We need some receivers to rise for the occasion.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
24101 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:20 am to
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It was an ugly start vs a terrible team, and it was mainly nothing but Fromm missing relatively simple throws.

Jake Fromms first couple of series weren’t as awful as you would have thought unless you rewatch it.

The first pass broken up by the LB, the drop by Kearis on the slant (hit him in the pads), then two actual misfires by Fromm (behind Robertson and at the feet of Landers when he was under pressure)

Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
26638 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:31 am to
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One would hope that a QBs stats would improve significantly from Freshman year to Junior year. His avg per completion and QBR has dropped off significantly from his freshman/sophomore year to this year. He has 4 straight games with below 50% completion percentage. Something is up with him, either injury or a terrible case of the yips. Either way, he's struggling.


Do QB stats depend, at all, on the people he is throwing to? What about the running backs? We don’t have WRs or RBs comparable (outside of Swift) to 2017. He hasn’t gotten better, maybe that’s a fair statement..but he’s no more “terrible” than he was then and that’s the narrative.

He gonna finish the year with 2500+ yards, 25 or so TDs and less than 5 INTs. He reminds me of David Greene and he had a dropping his Junior year for similar reasons.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42631 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:36 am to
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Jake Fromms first couple of series weren’t as awful as you would have thought unless you rewatch it. The first pass broken up by the LB, the drop by Kearis on the slant (hit him in the pads), then two actual misfires by Fromm (behind Robertson and at the feet of Landers when he was under pressure)


1. almost picked for 6
2. behind to Jackson
3. Very late to Robertson
4. Very Short to landers

He has to start better than this against LSU.
This post was edited on 12/6/19 at 7:38 am
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:38 am to
Fromm has been very poor for most of this year.

It is extremely disappointing. It confirms many of our fears that Kirby made the wrong QB choice. I am not sure if he can fix his issues.

Regardless, we have to hope for his best game of the season tomorrow. Anything short of that and LSU is going to blow our doors off.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20916 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:40 am to
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It confirms many of our fears that Kirby made the wrong QB choice. I am not sure if he can fix his issues.


This shite. Just gets dumb and dumber.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42631 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:48 am to
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Do QB stats depend, at all, on the people he is throwing to?


The deal is this: when the qb is missing open guys as often as he is, which wasn’t an issue in 2017, the fault goes to the Qb.

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He reminds me of David Greene


Good comparison as he was another athletically limited, game managing, true freshman starter and was extremely fortunate with timing his tenure with elite defenses and kickers.

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he had a dropping his Junior year for similar reasons.


The 2003 OL was probably our worst of all time. That’s understandable.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42631 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 7:50 am to
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It confirms many of our fears that Kirby made the wrong QB choice.


There really aren’t any good arguments otherwise. Frommbots like meansonny and foo have tried, but continue to fail to do so.

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we have to hope for his best game of the season tomorrow. Anything short of that and LSU is going to blow our doors off.


No doubt. Fromm’s poor play was a big reason why LSU kicked our asses last year. He can’t do that again.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
49656 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:16 am to
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Good comparison as he was another athletically limited, game managing, true freshman starter and was extremely fortunate with timing his tenure with elite defenses and kickers.


Richt made the wrong decision too. Shockley should have been starting the whole time. 2002 might not have gone as well but an experienced playmaker in Shockley might have been a huge difference in 2003 and 2004.

I'll take the playmaker over the game manager every single time.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
33071 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:31 am to
great info & I agree

have I been disappointed in his play? sure; but the characterization of him as a shitty QB is beyond ridiculous
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28530 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:32 am to
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2002 might not have gone as well


Ya think? Shockley cost us an undefeated season in 2002 and potentially a NC but you'd sacrifice that so we could potentially be better in '03 and '04?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
42631 posts
Posted on 12/6/19 at 8:34 am to
Probably was the wrong choice too. The difference is Richt at least gave DJS a fair chance, and Kirby didn’t do the same. I think DJS was about to win the job until he got hurt in the first half of the Carolina game.
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