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re: is the SEC championship a playoff game for us
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:27 pm to BigDaddyDawg
Posted on 11/13/23 at 4:27 pm to BigDaddyDawg
If we lose in the SECCG, we don't get in, period and there's a very real chance that there won't be a SEC team in the playoffs if Texas and the other the other conference champions win out since Texas has that win over Bama.
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:01 pm to WG_Dawg
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12-1 Michigan, non champ
11-1 OSU, non champ
11-2 Iowa, Big10 Champ
12-1 Texas, non champ
2/3/4/ loss Big 12 champion (whoever)
12-1 FSU, non champ
12-1 Lousville, ACC champ
12-1 Alabama, SEC champ
12-1 UGA nonchamp
Texas already has a loss, so if they aren't the Big 12 champs then they'd be 11-2 and out of the playoff race.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:02 pm to GurleyGirl
IF Bama beats (a hypothetical undefeated) UGA, they get the nod over Texas. Strength of schedule, how they have progressed over year AND best win.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:24 pm to BigDaddyDawg
For all intents and purposes the SECCG has been the equivalent of an early playoff game…except for that year that Bama didn’t make it and still got in.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:19 pm to BigDaddyDawg
Speculation about playoff possibilities is a waste of time.
I'm very comfortable as I anticipate this SEC Championship game. Our offense is a deadly combination of extreme capability and extreme diversity. This year's defense has grown into another monster. SEC freshman of the week, C. J. Allen and Javon Bullard will limit Bama's only real threat, Jalen Milroe.
I'm very comfortable as I anticipate this SEC Championship game. Our offense is a deadly combination of extreme capability and extreme diversity. This year's defense has grown into another monster. SEC freshman of the week, C. J. Allen and Javon Bullard will limit Bama's only real threat, Jalen Milroe.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:45 pm to WG_Dawg
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First of all, I want ot say that around this time people ALWAYS throw out these crazy ridiculous scenarios that don't ever play out.
Same with people always throwing out everyone winning out, which never happens either….
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12-1 Texas, non champ
Well, you lost all credibility in your entire post by not understanding where things currently stand and what I said….
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I guess you'd be looking at either UGA, UM, or Texas, all of which are 12-1
You would have a 11-2 Texas that wouldn’t make it with 2 less than ideal losses.
Michigan who would have 2 top 20 wins and a worse loss than UGA, not to mention UGA would have lost against another playoff team that is firing on all cylinders since their early loss to Texas.
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12-1 Lousville would definitely be in
I don’t think UGA dropping from #1 would fall behind a 1-loss Louisville that got beat by a horrible Pitt team and only 1 big win
Again, you said no chance. I have a reasonable outcome based on history and no one ever winning out when predicted. Last time 2 teams went undefeated into the CFP??? It’s funny we do a hypothetical of the #1 team losing, but can’t reasonably assume others lose.
Anyway, I believe Kirby will approach it as a quarterfinal as he has the last 2 years. However, there are a lot of avenues that get UGA with a close loss to Bama
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:32 pm to Griffindawg
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Committee seems more retarded than normal this year so I would say yes. It’s a playoff game for sure.
We'll have a clearer picture after Tuesday evening. If we move back to #1, then we will still have a chance with a close loss in the SECCG. If not, we have to win out to be in. Best idea is to be 13-0 and remove all doubt.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 5:53 am to IT_Dawg
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Louisville beats FSU
I can see this happening.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 7:21 am to IT_Dawg
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Same with people always throwing out everyone winning out, which never happens either….
Of course, not everyone will go undefeated. One or two probably will though. 4 of the last 5 years we've seen at least 2 undefeated teams in the playoffs, and two of those years had 3 undefeateds. My whole point was that coming up with upset city scenarious where everyone has multiple losses and chaos ensues isn't very likely.
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you lost all credibility in your entire post by not understanding where things currently stand and what I said…
sorry I was going from memory. Sue me for not remembering texas's schedule off the cuff.
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You would have a 11-2 Texas that wouldn’t make it with 2 less than ideal losses.
Right I messed up earlier, in this case texas is a non factor with 2 losses and no conference title.
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don’t think UGA dropping from #1 would fall behind a 1-loss Louisville that got beat by a horrible Pitt team and only 1 big win
it's all speculation of course, I'm just going by what the committee has done in the past. Never in playoff history has a team that didn't win its conference made the playoffs over a conference winner with a similar record. Granted that doesn't mean they HAVE to that in this scenario, I'm just going by the precedent that's been set.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 6:20 am to WG_Dawg
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don’t think UGA dropping from #1 would fall behind a 1-loss Louisville that got beat by a horrible Pitt team and only 1 big win
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it's all speculation of course, I'm just going by what the committee has done in the past. Never in playoff history has a team that didn't win its conference made the playoffs over a conference winner with a similar record.
Committee just put 2 loss Missouri ahead of Louisville…..
Based on last night, Looks like if Louisville beats FSU, UGA could still make the playoffs with a close loss to Bama.
OSU/Mich
Washington
Bama
UGA
And there is still a couple weeks to play to make it even more of a chance….
Again, I think Kirby has these boys firing on all cylinders and will win the SECCG, but just answering the OP saying it’s not necessarily a win or go home game yet
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 6:37 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:52 am to BigDaddyDawg
At this very moment, yes.. in three weeks who knows?
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:54 am to IT_Dawg
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Committee just put 2 loss Missouri ahead of Louisville…..
which means exactly nothing at this stage of things. Louisville likely still has a CCG to play (I haven't looked into what happens if they lose this wknd) while Missouri does not; should Louisville keep winning they will of course jump missouri.
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Looks like if Louisville beats FSU, UGA could still make the playoffs with a close loss to Bama.
OSU/Mich
Washington
Bama
UGA
Maybe, if there's a whole lot of stuff that happens like you mentioned prevoiusly. What if Texas continues to win? We aren't passing up a 1-loss big 12 champion. I'm not entirely sure we'd be in front of a 1-loss ACC champion either, despite knowing that we are definitely much better than louisville and knowing that we woudl have much better wins and much better loss than them...the committee has shown that it's rare for a 1 los P5 champ to not make it. I believe only once in 9 years has a P5 team won it's conference championship game and ended wiht 1 loss and NOT made the playoffs ohio state in 2018. In that year though there were 3 undefeated locks and the 4th team was also a 1-loss P5 champion.
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And there is still a couple weeks to play to make it even more of a chance….
I think we just look it this from complete opposite ends. You seem to think that each week presents more chaos and more of a chance for craziness, while I'm of the mind that each week things get clearer and clearer and take a more solid shape. Every year of the playoffs, even late in the game in mid-late November people are always asking about all sorts of scenarios but then by December it's usually cut and dry.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:23 am to WG_Dawg
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You seem to think that each week presents more chaos and more of a chance for craziness, while I'm of the mind that each week things get clearer and clearer and take a more solid shape.
I think there are rivalry and CCG weeks ahead and things DO happen. Doesn't need to all happen at once...
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Every year of the playoffs, even late in the game in mid-late November people are always asking about all sorts of scenarios
It's funny, because that is what college football is all about...talking about scenarios and teams and what ifs...That is what is really going to blow donkey dicks about going to 12 team playoffs. Also, MOST people predict the same scenarios playing out. No one is BETTING on craziness, 95% of people think its going to go in the direction of the favorites.
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but then by December it's usually cut and dry.
Yea, cause the games are over and they have announced the playoffs Look, I don't think 20 crazy things are going to happen, but I bet there will be at least 4 current top 10 teams that lose another game...and if its the right 4 teams, it opens up the possibility
This post was edited on 11/15/23 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/15/23 at 9:59 am to IT_Dawg
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I think there are rivalry and CCG weeks ahead and things DO happen. Doesn't need to all happen at once...
sure that does happen. I'm just saying the odds of us losing, texas losing, and FSU losing all happening is just probably not a likely thing.
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That is what is really going to blow donkey dicks about going to 12 team playoffs.
I despise a 12 team playoff. No argument there.
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I bet there will be at least 4 current top 10 teams that lose another game
It would be impossible for that not to happen
1 of OSU/UM is going to lose, 1 of UGA/Bama is going to lose, 1 of Wash/OU is going to lose, 1 of FSU/UL is going to lose. Posted on 11/15/23 at 1:13 pm to BigDaddyDawg
Unless there's late season craziness like 2007 it's looking that way. The CFP gets super gay for conference champions and puts a lot of stock into being a conference champion. The best thing that could happen is Florida State and/or the winner of the Big 10 East losing their conference championship games.
Posted on 11/15/23 at 7:08 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
PAC12 could very easily frick themselves over. Both Wash and Ore still have to play OreSt, a pretty good team. Washington is at OreSt this Saturday and are actually underdogs according to Vegas.
If Washington loses this weekend or to Oregon in the CCG, PAC12 is likely out.
If Washington loses this weekend or to Oregon in the CCG, PAC12 is likely out.
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