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re: I told you all Fromm wanted out
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:57 pm to HTDawg
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:57 pm to HTDawg
quote:He was one of the hottest QBs in the nation last year after that game. Whatever you want to call it, he played very, very well for us and justified CKS' decision not to bench him. If Fields wasn't here to hold a clipboard last season, there would be far less complaining about him.
That's generous as hell. Fromm has rarely "lit" anyone up.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:08 pm to Leon S Kennedy
Fromm was a DGD. I wasn't an illusory unconditional fan, but anyone who doesn't see this, is simply not honest.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:32 pm to FooManChoo
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. Whatever you want to call it, he played very, very well
That's far different than claiming he lit everyone up. Fromm has rarely, if ever shown the ability to throw this team to a win or light opposing defenses up. If you want to see what lighting a defense up looks like, look no further than Joe Burrow. Fromm played well and managed the game very well. He led this team, but he hardly if ever lit anyone up.
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If Fields wasn't here to hold a clipboard last season, there would be far less complaining about him.
If ifs and buts. You know the saying. While you're right, people seeing what Fields did at OSU with absolute no experience as a starter in college, and watching him clearly outclass Fromm on the football field, is why people complain about it. They saw a generational talent at QB leave the school.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 5:33 pm to Dandy Lion
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Fromm was a DGD.
Without question he was a DGD.....100%!!! Nobody wit any sense would disagree, and he's earned the right to try the NFL if he wants to.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:24 pm to HTDawg
I wonder how much the fan complaining went into his decision. I get the feeling it wasn't all Jake wanting to go out and make money in the NFL. I think he realized he reached his ceiling with this team and offense and fan complaints only pushed him further - just my opinion. Hope the NFL works out for him.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:30 pm to Dandy Lion
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Fromm was a DGD
Fromm IS a DGD. Do we say Herschel, Greene, Stafford, Murray "were" DGDs? No! Once a Dawg, always a Dawg...he IS a DGD.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:32 pm to Leon S Kennedy
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He won and proved he was the better player by an unbelievable margin.
I'm sorry. He won what?
quote:And neither would Kirby....today. two years ago? That's another story.
Not a single coach in the country pro or college would choose Fromm over Fields today.
I gotta say, though. Your hindsight is definitely 20/20
Posted on 1/8/20 at 6:42 pm to Leon S Kennedy
You mean the Fields who chokes?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:56 pm to Leon S Kennedy
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Fields is 13-1 as a starter. He is winning games. Trying to imply that Fromm is better just because his team won a single playoff game two seasons ago is idiotic. Is Fromm better than Kyler Murray too?
Fromm won a playoff game against a team that didn’t have a defense. If OU has a defense remotely close to Clemson Fromm wouldn’t have won that game either. Fromm was a VERY good college QB as long as there was some pressure for the starting job. When there wasn’t he wasn’t very good.
He was also very good in big games that had meaning.....and in 2 minute situations, again, under pressure to perform. Otherwise he was just OK. I doubt he starts in the NFL but anyone who didn’t know money was going to get him out of Athens is delusional. With pressure to win and keep a starting job he may well surprise me.
Fields has the talent to be a program changing generational type of player...but looks very human at times. I doubt many coaches would’ve handled the situation differently. Of course most coaches don’t win national titles either. That’s probably what we have.....a great coach who isn’t elite. The jury is still out but that’s what it looks like after year 4 and year 5 isn’t setting up well with a better UF, better UT, Bama in Bama, less talent on the Oline, at TB and now at QB. Recruiting is elite no doubt and the last 3 years have been arguable 3 of the best in program history and that is more than enough for now. CFB is unpredictable....who knows that there ain’t a Joe Burrow type in Athens next year? It happens.....GO DAEGS!
Posted on 1/8/20 at 9:56 pm to Gtmodawg
Drew butler's podcast is pushing Fromm hard for the nfl draft. Says he wouldnt be shocked for a late 1st round pickup (you only have to get 1 gm/coach/OC to fall in love with you).
He also says that Fromm would do great in a Aaron Rogers situation (sit for a year or 2 behind an older entrenched starter to learn the system).
The problem that I have with that take is Fromms tangibles. If you have 1-2 years to groom your QB, would you rather have year 3 of Eason/Herbert or year 3 of Fromm? The football IQ isnt as urgent if you are going to give the QB 12-24 months to learn the system, calls, and reads.
He also says that Fromm would do great in a Aaron Rogers situation (sit for a year or 2 behind an older entrenched starter to learn the system).
The problem that I have with that take is Fromms tangibles. If you have 1-2 years to groom your QB, would you rather have year 3 of Eason/Herbert or year 3 of Fromm? The football IQ isnt as urgent if you are going to give the QB 12-24 months to learn the system, calls, and reads.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:07 pm to meansonny
Fromm is a hypocrite. The guy was supposed to bring us a championship. The only thing he brought was choking to bama twice. Fromm isnt even in the top 3 of UGA QBs and will be a scrub in the NFL.
I hope Kirby learns from this. He should have never picked Fromm over Fields. The fact Fromm was picked over Fields shows how delusional our offensive staff is and also probably explains why all our offensive players are leaving.
I hope Kirby learns from this. He should have never picked Fromm over Fields. The fact Fromm was picked over Fields shows how delusional our offensive staff is and also probably explains why all our offensive players are leaving.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 10:14 pm to DawgMan21
Disagree.
Fromm isnt a hypocrite.
He did the best he could for 3 years at UGA. That was better than Eason and Fields (kirby didnt make that decision. The QBs made the decision with their play on the field).
Why is fromm going pro?
Because he isnt having fun. Fans have turned on him despite the glaring issues with the offense (fromm hasnt regressed. He hits and misses the same passes he did in 2017 and 2018. But the offense has regressed because our receiver room wasnt that good due to injuries, transfers, and the nfl draft).
Why isnt Fromm having fun?
Because a plurality of fans have turned on him despite his performance being the same.
If you arent having fun, then it is work.
If it is work, then get paid.
(This was drew butler's take... and I dont think it is a bad one)
Fromm isnt a hypocrite.
He did the best he could for 3 years at UGA. That was better than Eason and Fields (kirby didnt make that decision. The QBs made the decision with their play on the field).
Why is fromm going pro?
Because he isnt having fun. Fans have turned on him despite the glaring issues with the offense (fromm hasnt regressed. He hits and misses the same passes he did in 2017 and 2018. But the offense has regressed because our receiver room wasnt that good due to injuries, transfers, and the nfl draft).
Why isnt Fromm having fun?
Because a plurality of fans have turned on him despite his performance being the same.
If you arent having fun, then it is work.
If it is work, then get paid.
(This was drew butler's take... and I dont think it is a bad one)
Posted on 1/8/20 at 11:17 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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You mean the Fields who chokes?
Fields broke his route off because he thought Fields was scrambling? If you are going to criticize at least know what the Hell you are talking about or you will get called in it.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 7:44 am to Spaceman Spiff
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You mean the Fields who chokes?
Dont listen to Peters idiotic takes on things.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:46 am to Leon S Kennedy
Fromm didn’t want to decline further under Coley.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:47 am to Leon S Kennedy
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Fields broke his route off because he thought Fields was scrambling? If you are going to criticize at least know what the Hell you are talking about or you will get called in it.
wait, Fields threw it to himself?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:50 am to HTDawg
quote:After the LSU game, Fromm's completion percentage was 75%. He threw for 1,128 yards with 14 TDs and only 1 INT. Maybe that isn't Burrow numbers but Fromm doesn't play in a Burrow offense. He, however, was very efficient and made some great throws to score points in the home stretch of the season. Like I said, he was on fire, and it does you no good to downplay it.
That's far different than claiming he lit everyone up. Fromm has rarely, if ever shown the ability to throw this team to a win or light opposing defenses up. If you want to see what lighting a defense up looks like, look no further than Joe Burrow. Fromm played well and managed the game very well. He led this team, but he hardly if ever lit anyone up
quote:Fromm also played very well for us with absolute no experience as a starter the previous season. They both had difference offenses to play in, though. Fromm actually excels in more spread offenses, like our 2-minute offenses. That's what he played in while in high school where he put up some very impressive numbers.
If ifs and buts. You know the saying. While you're right, people seeing what Fields did at OSU with absolute no experience as a starter in college, and watching him clearly outclass Fromm on the football field, is why people complain about it. They saw a generational talent at QB leave the school.
Perhaps the issue isn't Fromm but the offense he was asked to lead. And perhaps Fields wouldn't have been as great in our offense with our receivers this season. We won't know because the situations are so vastly different. What we do know is that Fields couldn't beat out Fromm in 2018 and didn't want to wait around to try again in 2019. He left on his own and we made no mistake there. It was just bad luck with the timing.
And lol at you using the word "outclass" in reference to Fields.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:20 am to FooManChoo
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And perhaps Fields wouldn't have been as great in our offense with our receivers this season.
He certainly wouldn't be missing wide open receivers and wide open TDs by 3 feet. He also wouldn't be taking sacks as easily, and his mobility would have probably helped the running game and made us more difficult to defend.
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