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re: I told you all Fromm wanted out
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:07 pm to rb
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:07 pm to rb
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My only idiotic standard is winning football games.
Fields is 13-1 as a starter. He is winning games. Trying to imply that Fromm is better just because his team won a single playoff game two seasons ago is idiotic. Is Fromm better than Kyler Murray too?
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:12 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:Does not compute. He wasn't the better QB in 2018 regardless of what he is today. And frankly it's like comparing apples to oranges given the different offenses they were in this season, so it's tough to say one way or another.
He will be a top 5 pick in next year's draft barring injury. He won and proved he was the better player by an unbelievable margin. Not a single coach in the country pro or college would choose Fromm over Fields today.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:14 pm to Leon S Kennedy
He's also more athletically gifted than Burrow (the guy that couldn't find the field in Columbus) but I wouldn't trade Burrow for a half dozen Fields.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:17 pm to FooManChoo
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Does not compute. He wasn't the better QB in 2018 regardless of what he is today. And frankly it's like comparing apples to oranges given the different offenses they were in this season, so it's tough to say one way or another.
bullshite. Any one with functional eyes and a brain knows that Fields is significantly better than Fromm.
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:21 pm to rb
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He's also more athletically gifted than Burrow (the guy that couldn't find the field in Columbus) but I wouldn't trade Burrow for a half dozen Fields.
And your point? Fields, Tua, Burrow and Lawrence are in class of QB that Fromm cannot dream of attaining. And Burrow is a damn good athlete. His ability to extend plays and pick up yards scrambling is a big part of why he is so good. All four of those QBs do that. It is almost a requirement now to be great. Herbert has some wheels too.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:23 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:He's more athletic than Fromm and has a stronger arm. That doesn't mean he's the overall better QB. He had an overall better supporting cast than Fromm had this season, thus my comment about the situations being apples to oranges for comparison.
Bull shite. Any one with functional eyes and a brain knows the Fields is significantly better than Fromm.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:28 pm to Leon S Kennedy
And every single one of those guys were complimented with exceptional skill players around them. Fromm didn't have that luxury.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:31 pm to rb
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And every single one of those guys were complimented with exceptional skill players around them. Fromm didn't have that luxury.
Two 5 star WR, about 5 4 star wr, 2 5 star RBs and 2 4 star RBs
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:37 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:"Exceptional" is not dictated simply by their high school recruiting stars but also how they played on the field. There was a night and day difference between Ohio State's overall offense and UGA's, and it wasn't simply because of the QB.
Two 5 star WR, about 5 4 star wr, 2 5 star RBs and 2 4 star RBs
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:39 pm to rb
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And every single one of those guys were complimented with exceptional skill players around them. Fromm didn't have that luxury.
When he had that his numbers were still just good and he still struggled part of his sophomore season.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:39 pm to Dawgfanman
Shows you how irrelevant recruiting rankings are. If you had to re-assign recruiting grades today how many of those would you say were elite? Two?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:41 pm to FooManChoo
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"Exceptional" is not dictated simply by their high school recruiting stars but also how they played on the field. There was a night and day difference between Ohio State's overall offense and UGA's, and it wasn't simply because of the QB.
What will you post about next season now that you cannot makes excuses for Fromm?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:41 pm to FooManChoo
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"Exceptional" is not dictated simply by their high school recruiting stars but also how they played on the field. There was a night and day difference between Ohio State's overall offense and UGA's, and it wasn't simply because of the QB
I agree. But no need to shite on those players. They are the guys our coaches wanted, are our coaches bad at picking RBs and WRs or bad at developing them?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:44 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:The first part, if you want to call it a struggle. After the LSU game, he lit up everyone, including Alabama.
When he had that his numbers were still just good and he still struggled part of his sophomore season.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:44 pm to rb
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My only idiotic standard is winning football games.
Call me when football is won by a single player. Had JK Dobbins not dropped two potential TD passes, they would have won comfortably, but this is a simple regurgitation of the same arguments we've all made before and it really doesn't matter anymore. We're just going around in circles.
It's already been decided by their play on the field and where they will be drafted. If it comes to winning, Fields lost 1 less game than Fromm his first year as a starter and led his team to the playoffs.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:44 pm to Leon S Kennedy
quote:The same thing I posted about this season: the truth.
What will you post about next season now that you cannot makes excuses for Fromm?
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:46 pm to Dawgfanman
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There was a night and day difference between Ohio State's overall offense and UGA's, and it wasn't simply because of the QB
A large part of it was, but having this argument with you is a complete waste of time, so I'll let it go.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:46 pm to rb
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You are what your record says you are. He could easily change my mind by winning one.
You are confusing qb with team. Teams get credit for wins and losses. Qbs don’t play defense or kick balls, and some can’t run well.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:47 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:I don't mean to rip on our players. We had a lot of youth and relative inexperience to deal with this season with most of our top targets leaving after last season.
I agree. But no need to shite on those players. They are the guys our coaches wanted, are our coaches bad at picking RBs and WRs or bad at developing them?
It's more a commentary on how well they played this season compared to the receivers at Ohio State. Like I said, it's like an apples to oranges comparison because the situations were so different. If Fromm stayed, we likely would've seen a huge improvement next season with a year under the belts of our receivers.
And to answer your question, I believe they didn't develop very well during the season. Pickens came on strong at the end, but outside of the Baylor game, we experienced the same issues every week. It was hard to watch.
Posted on 1/8/20 at 4:48 pm to FooManChoo
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After the LSU game, he lit up everyone, including Alabama.
That's generous as hell. Fromm has rarely "lit" anyone up.
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