Gaming the timing of infections

Maybe they do not have symptoms because their immune systems are off the charts because of their health regimen?

Hurd immunity is the only way with this thing, like a bad flu.

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Players who've cleared quarantine will probably be available throughout the rest of the season.

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You don't read the news much.

Herd immunity requires a minimum of 95% of the population to be immune to effectively halt the spread of a pathogen. A lot more than 5% of the population is vulnerable. Secondly, herd immunity also only applies to pathogens that do not rapidly mutate like, e.g., the flu. We have no idea yet whether COVID-19 will mutate like that or not.

No one can know who is, and who is not, vulnerable. Almost everyone avoids getting sick even if doing so might be for the common good. SARS-2 shut down the economy. Politicians followed. If the rate of COVID growth swamps hospitals the fatality rate soars.

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think that number is closer to 80%.

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It is 60%.

When 60% have immunity, more than half of the people that you encounter are immune.

When you factor in that the 60% involves the most reckless individuals, the chances of the remaining 40% acting irresponsibly is very low.

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Why inconvenience so many people when we could have just isolated everyone who's "vulnerable" until this thing dried out in the summer sun?

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I'm with you.

I don't think the government should shut anything down.
If someone wants to stay home then stay home.
If someone wants to work then work.

I do know that the "vulnerable" would have a hard time sitting on the sideline while everyone else is out. But that's free will.

The argument has been that if 80% of the population completely ignored it and continued life as usual, it would be nearly impossible to keep it away from the 20% who are elderly or already unhealthy.

But wasn't it the Lt Gov of Texas who said a couple of months ago that the elderly were willing to die for the economy?

Think of all the folks that died of covid related shootings in Chicago last weekend...

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Herd immunity requires a minimum of 95% of the population to be immune to effectively halt the spread of a pathogen. A lot more than 5% of the population is vulnerable. Secondly, herd immunity also only applies to pathogens that do not rapidly mutate like, e.g., the flu. We have no idea yet whether COVID-19 will mutate like that or not.

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Did you just make this up?

Studies are coming back now saying COVID dies in UV light almost instantly.

Only 2.4 million people out of 330+ million in this country have tested positive. So far, only 32 million tests done. But at the same time, if any of the rest of the 300 million were symptomatic, they'd likely be going to the hospital and getting tested.

So it's not like this 9% positive tests number is even remotely representative of the actual transmission and sick rate.

Only 26 school-age children have died out of 123k US deaths. And of the 123k, nearly 94% have been over the age of 77 and/or had multiple pre-existing conditions that made them vulnerable.



In addition, I've shown evidence that COVID was very likely in this country as early as October of 2019.

And if that's true, that means this very infectious virus was spreading across this country for at least 6 months before we even began social distancing.

Which would mean we've very likely already gone through an early phase of herd immunity, and what we've been dealing with since March is the vulnerable group fighting exposure.

And guess what... that lines up precisely with the data. 123k dead, and virtually all of them fit exactly the "most vulnerable" category.


This is all quite easy and extremely reasonable application of basic logic, folks. It's not rocket surgery. Just connect the freaking dots that are there in plain sight.


Tens of millions of Americans have already been exposed to this and are at the very least asymptomatic. And healthy people are for sure at virtually no risk. And pretty much anyone under the age of 30, especially kids under 20'ish, are especially at insanely low risk.


At this moment, they should basically say, if you have pre-existing medical conditions, especially respiratory, circulatory, or renal, and/or you're above the age of 65, then you should continue to wear a mask and social distance. Everyone else, you're free to get back to normal life, just try to keep your distance from the elderly and the likely vulnerable.