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Whiznot
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Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
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Gaming the timing of infections
Are some teams trying to get their most important players in early COVID recovery? LSU? Clemson?


BeefDawg
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Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4237 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
What "recovery"?

So far every single one of these college players who's tested positive has been asymptomatic and not sick.

I've searched for articles and any news I can find on this. All of them are the same. A lot of kids "testing positive", but zero reports of anyone actually being sick.

Funny how the media seem to breeze right past that pretty important aspect of this issue.


lewis and herschel
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Member since Nov 2009
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
Maybe they do not have symptoms because their immune systems are off the charts because of their health regimen?

Hurd immunity is the only way with this thing, like a bad flu.


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Whiznot
Georgia Fan
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
4864 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
Recovery means testing negative, otherwise the player is infected regardless of symptoms. Infected players will be quarantined.

Players who've cleared quarantine will probably be available throughout the rest of the season.


meansonny
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ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
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Players who've cleared quarantine will probably be available throughout the rest of the season.

You don't read the news much.


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deeprig9
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
What you are implying is that the coaches are trying to do the best thing for the team by getting everyone exposed like our country should have done in the first place (unless vulnerable).


baconwaffle
Georgia Fan
El Paso, Texas
Member since Jan 2013
116 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
Herd immunity requires a minimum of 95% of the population to be immune to effectively halt the spread of a pathogen. A lot more than 5% of the population is vulnerable. Secondly, herd immunity also only applies to pathogens that do not rapidly mutate like, e.g., the flu. We have no idea yet whether COVID-19 will mutate like that or not.


lewis and herschel
Georgia Fan
Member since Nov 2009
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
All that is great but a vaccine is Q1 2021 at the earliest...


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Whiznot
Georgia Fan
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
4864 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
No one can know who is, and who is not, vulnerable. Almost everyone avoids getting sick even if doing so might be for the common good. SARS-2 shut down the economy. Politicians followed. If the rate of COVID growth swamps hospitals the fatality rate soars.


meansonny
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ATL
Member since Sep 2012
11136 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
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Herd immunity requires a minimum of 95% of the population to be immune to effectively halt the spread of a pathogen

Wtf?

I'm 95% sure that this is 100% wrong

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Secondly, herd immunity also only applies to pathogens that do not rapidly mutate like, e.g., the flu. We have no idea yet whether COVID-19 will mutate like that or not.


This is true. But the newest studies show that "immunity strength" significantly lessens after 2 months. The anti-bodies seem to have a half life that don't last very long. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.


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VADawg
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
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Herd immunity requires a minimum of 95% of the population to be immune to effectively halt the spread of a pathogen.


I think that number is closer to 80%.


meansonny
Georgia Fan
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
11136 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
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think that number is closer to 80%.


It is 60%.

When 60% have immunity, more than half of the people that you encounter are immune.

When you factor in that the 60% involves the most reckless individuals, the chances of the remaining 40% acting irresponsibly is very low.


Lucius Clay
Georgia Fan
Member since Sep 2012
2613 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
Amazing that there are so many infectious disease experts on a UGA football forum. Who woulda known?

Trump should just fire those pesky NIH and CDC eggheads. Why inconvenience so many people when we could have just isolated everyone who's "vulnerable" until this thing dried out in the summer sun?


meansonny
Georgia Fan
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
11136 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
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Why inconvenience so many people when we could have just isolated everyone who's "vulnerable" until this thing dried out in the summer sun?


I'm with you.

I don't think the government should shut anything down.
If someone wants to stay home then stay home.
If someone wants to work then work.

I do know that the "vulnerable" would have a hard time sitting on the sideline while everyone else is out. But that's free will.


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Barstools
Georgia Fan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
5686 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
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Trump should just fire those pesky NIH and CDC eggheads.

People have been saying this for a while. None of them have a freaking clue what's going to happen. It's a guessing game to them. People need to ignore them and get on with their lives.

Unless you are a 400 pound black lady with the sugar or an 80 year old with COPD, then you will die. Everyone else is safe.
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Lucius Clay
Georgia Fan
Member since Sep 2012
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
The argument has been that if 80% of the population completely ignored it and continued life as usual, it would be nearly impossible to keep it away from the 20% who are elderly or already unhealthy.

But wasn't it the Lt Gov of Texas who said a couple of months ago that the elderly were willing to die for the economy?


Barstools
Georgia Fan
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
5686 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
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would be nearly impossible to keep it away from the 20% who are elderly or already unhealthy.


Well sucks to be those 20%. Fact is only 5% of those 20% worlds die anyway.

What exactly is your point? Everyone must quarantine forever because we have elderly people?

How about those 20% take ownership on their own lives and protect themselves.

Also, there is no way 20% of our population is over 80.

Lastly, by your own admission the 20% is going to be exposed. So exactly what the frick are we doing here? Prolonging the inevitable?
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lewis and herschel
Georgia Fan
Member since Nov 2009
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
Think of all the folks that died of covid related shootings in Chicago last weekend...


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Crowknowsbest
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Member since May 2012
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re: Gaming the timing of infections
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No one can know who is, and who is not, vulnerable.

We can make a pretty damn good guess


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BeefDawg
Georgia Fan
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4237 posts

re: Gaming the timing of infections
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Herd immunity requires a minimum of 95% of the population to be immune to effectively halt the spread of a pathogen. A lot more than 5% of the population is vulnerable. Secondly, herd immunity also only applies to pathogens that do not rapidly mutate like, e.g., the flu. We have no idea yet whether COVID-19 will mutate like that or not.
Did you just make this up?

Studies are coming back now saying COVID dies in UV light almost instantly.

Only 2.4 million people out of 330+ million in this country have tested positive. So far, only 32 million tests done. But at the same time, if any of the rest of the 300 million were symptomatic, they'd likely be going to the hospital and getting tested.

So it's not like this 9% positive tests number is even remotely representative of the actual transmission and sick rate.

Only 26 school-age children have died out of 123k US deaths. And of the 123k, nearly 94% have been over the age of 77 and/or had multiple pre-existing conditions that made them vulnerable.



In addition, I've shown evidence that COVID was very likely in this country as early as October of 2019.

And if that's true, that means this very infectious virus was spreading across this country for at least 6 months before we even began social distancing.

Which would mean we've very likely already gone through an early phase of herd immunity, and what we've been dealing with since March is the vulnerable group fighting exposure.

And guess what... that lines up precisely with the data. 123k dead, and virtually all of them fit exactly the "most vulnerable" category.


This is all quite easy and extremely reasonable application of basic logic, folks. It's not rocket surgery. Just connect the freaking dots that are there in plain sight.


Tens of millions of Americans have already been exposed to this and are at the very least asymptomatic. And healthy people are for sure at virtually no risk. And pretty much anyone under the age of 30, especially kids under 20'ish, are especially at insanely low risk.


At this moment, they should basically say, if you have pre-existing medical conditions, especially respiratory, circulatory, or renal, and/or you're above the age of 65, then you should continue to wear a mask and social distance. Everyone else, you're free to get back to normal life, just try to keep your distance from the elderly and the likely vulnerable.
This post was edited on 6/25 at 8:41 pm


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