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re: Fields Clearly Can Not Win the Big Game
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:45 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:45 pm to Crowknowsbest
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IDK. It's hard to know what our offense would have looked like, what situations would have played out, etc.
That is an impossible question to answer.
True. But I doubt Coley was going to change the offensive scheme. We would still have Coley as OC.
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He screwed up by overseeing an offense designed the way it currently is.
That offense did well in 2017, and to an extent in 2018. While it is not a high powered offense, it is an efficient one. Can it win a NC? It almost did in 2017, and came close in 2018. (That might be a stretch considering what Clemson did to Alabama, though.) But people lose focus tha Alabama had one of the most high powered dynamic offenses in the country last year and this year and fell woefully short. They were coming closer when they ran an offense that more closely resembled ours. but yes...I agree we need a change.
quote:We were not going to beat LSU with Coley as OC or our inexperienced WRs, along with Swift getting two carries due to injuries.
maybe
quote:Exactly. And I think both are capable honestly. It is some posters on here that seem to think we cannot win with Fromm at QB. Surely you have seen posters that have said exactly that. it is as dumb to say we can't win with Fromm as it is to say Fields cannot win the big game...and whoever started this thread? I think that was their entire point.
He didn't yesterday. That doesn't mean he can't. Same as Fromm.
quote:I disagree that we can't win with this offense, but it would be easier if we made changes. I think it needs some changes though. Most definitely.
What I'm talking about is what UGA can have offensively. What UGA currently has is an offense that I don't believe to be likely to result in winning big.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 2:46 pm
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:45 pm to RedPants
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So everyone is going to go on for 7 pages and completely ignore the fact that the receiver fell down on his route and that’s why that game ending pick was thrown? It wasn’t a choke by Fields. Odd thread.
No more than a ball bouncing off the chest of a WR into a SC players hands was Fromm’s fault... but that is not how this place works. Either you win Championships or you are a loser. It is that simple.
..but back to that play, the safety had position. The ball should never have been thrown. Period. Fields wanted to throw that post from the snap. It wasn’t there. He threw an interception and lost the game. Fields telegraphed away OSUs chances of a natty. He choked under the pressure. It was really the first time he has faced 4th quarter pressure since he has been at OSU. That OSU team is loaded, so he never really faced any pressure against the 2 star Big 10 players but when he finally faced it he failed and failed for the world to see. If he can’t win with this cast, what is he going to do next year when 15 of his teammates are in the NFL? Choke 2.0 most likely
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:50 pm to DawgsLife
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True. But I doubt Coley was going to change the offensive scheme. We would still have Coley as OC.
See, I think a simple read option component with a real threat of the QB keeping would have opened up a lot. I even wish Fromm would pull it at least sometimes, and he's not a runner.
That's not a true scheme change, just a personnel capability change.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:55 pm to Peter Buck
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Either you win Championships or you are a loser. It is that simple.
Only to a simpleton like yourself
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:59 pm to Crowknowsbest
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See, I think a simple read option component with a real threat of the QB keeping would have opened up a lot. I even wish Fromm would pull it at least sometimes, and he's not a runner.
He runs sometimes, and if Coley had made it more of a part of our offense, I think he would have pulled it and run more. he has shown himself to be a capable runner, although certainly not flashy by any means.
quote:from was capable, I don't know why he didn't run more. It was maddening at times. He seemed to run less as his career moved along.
That's not a true scheme change, just a personnel capability change.
I also don't think we have some plays that could greatly enhass our offense. Late in the game, the little flare pass to the RB (Dobbins) was extremely effective and it would be difficult tod efense. taht would help a lot. I also think Fromm really shied away from throwing passes down the middle.
I don't remember who it was, but somebody said they felt the coaches preached to protect the football so much it made Fromm tentative. I tend to wonder if this wasn't a part of it.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:01 pm to djsdawg
The real argument is gonna be if yesterday’s choke by Fields was choke 1.0 or 2.0?
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:03 pm to Peter Buck
Fromm gets credit for both bama chokes using your reasoning. Also has LSU. That’s 3 in 3 years.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:12 pm to djsdawg
One big choke fest.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:17 pm to DawgsLife
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from was capable, I don't know why he didn't run more. It was maddening at times. He seemed to run less as his career moved along.
I would say one big reason for Fromm not running too much this year is depth at QB. We had a 4 star QB get brain surgery and the other QB transferred and choked last night for another team.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:20 pm to Peter Buck
It’s fromm’s lack of speed more than anything else.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:42 pm to Peter Buck
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One big choke fest.
Led by your favorite qb Fromm.
Posted on 12/29/19 at 3:47 pm to Peter Buck
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I would say one big reason for Fromm not running too much this year is depth at QB. We had a 4 star QB get brain surgery and the other QB transferred and choked last night for another team.
I would agree. And that was the reasoning the other poster mentioned. Maybe it was you I got it from? It made a sense to me.
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