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re: Fields Clearly Can Not Win the Big Game

Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
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Superior talent to us.


Bullsh*t!!!

LINK

Click the link and educate yourself. The only thing you might be able to say is they're more experienced at some positions. Fromm has played the last three season with an absolutely loaded roster. Don't give me this BS about talent.

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Can you imagine where OSU would have been without Dobbins?


If it wasn't for Dobbins dropping 2 TDs, they might have won. Fields only accounted for over 50 TDs this season. Without him they go nowhere.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 2:20 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:17 pm to
That doesn't mean what he said isn't true.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:18 pm to
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Not one person made this claim.



Okay. the maybe they seemed to think the majority of it was on Fromm. i saw a couple of threads about Coley, but almost every week a new one was started about Fromm.

But then, this is the fan base that trashed Aaron Murray, so....
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Click the link and educate yourself. The only thing you might be able to say is they're more experienced at some positions. Fromm has played the last three season with an absolutely loaded roster. Don't give me this BS about talent.




There have been threads showing that current talent on rosters showed Ohio State had more talent than us. your link shows recruiting rankings and not current players on roster.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Not sure he missed tons of throws that could not be explained the way we explained Fields INT


Except he did. Fromm had blatant poor throws to open wrs, which isn’t a communicative issue, but rather a quality throw issue.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:21 pm to
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But then, this is the fan base that trashed Aaron Murray, so....


I'd kill to have Aaron Murray now. He was a DGD who had some pretty average defenses that couldn't help him out very often.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:21 pm to
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That doesn't mean what he said isn't true.

About there being other problems on offense? Of course there are other problems on offense.

What a lot of us want is a complete overhaul of the offensive philosophy. For me, that was the problem with letting Fields go. He was the personification of a modernized UGA offense.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:21 pm to
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There have been threads showing that current talent on rosters showed Ohio State had more talent than us.


There have been morons making that claim. What do you think recruiting rankings are? They show where the top talent went. Nobody has recruited more 5 star talent than us the past three seasons.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 2:24 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:22 pm to
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There have been threads showing that current talent on rosters showed Ohio State had more talent than us. your link shows recruiting rankings and not current players on roster.

Any talent discrepancy between UGA and OSU is very marginal.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:23 pm to
So everyone is going to go on for 7 pages and completely ignore the fact that the receiver fell down on his route and that’s why that game ending pick was thrown? It wasn’t a choke by Fields. Odd thread.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:24 pm to
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Except he did. Fromm had blatant poor throws to open wrs, which isn’t a communicative issue, but rather a quality throw issue.




I never said he did not make some poor throws.



I said there were many, many other factors involved with the overall poor showing.

Besides. This thread is about Fields. Why do you keep dragging Fromm into it?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:25 pm to
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saw a couple of threads about Coley, but almost every week a new one was started about Fromm.



Of course. Why would it be the other way? Coley got less crap as the season went on because he was actually calling plays that should have led to explosive passing tds. The person missing those open passes got the blame for missing those passes, as he should.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:25 pm to
I didn't even realize that. I never saw the receiver on the screen, so I assumed he ran the wrong route. No QB at that level is going to misread that badly.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:28 pm to
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Any talent discrepancy between UGA and OSU is very marginal.



yet, Fields could not win with a talent advantage. how was he going to make the difference for us?

Look. You are missing the point. We have heard as nauseum from some that Kirby screwed up and we should have kept Fields. Maybe. Maybe not. based upon what we know today...we would have been in the same position today if Fromm or Fields were our QB.

The OP said Fields clearly can not win the big game. can anybody argue against that?

Personally, I like to concentrate on what we have instead of pining away on what left.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:30 pm to
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I didn't even realize that. I never saw the receiver on the screen, so I assumed he ran the wrong route. No QB at that level is going to misread that badly.




It looked to me like he fell down, too, quite honestly. I'd have to look at it again to be sure, but if you look at the bottom left hand part of the screen it looks like he fell down. Which seems odd. It didn't look like anybody was around him, but again he was off screen so it was hard to tell.

ETA
Just went back and looked at it and the receiver was definitely on the ground. But he was on the ground before the ball left Fields hand. Why he threw that ball I don't understand. Maybe just excitement? I don't know. The receiver was down in enough time that Fields should have pulled the ball and run.
This post was edited on 12/29/19 at 2:34 pm
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1477 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:30 pm to
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Look. You are missing the point. We have heard as nauseum from some that Kirby screwed up and we should have kept Fields. Maybe. Maybe not. based upon what we know today...we would have been in the same position today if Fromm or Fields were our QB.



Do you really think Fromm could score on Clemson's defense? Do you think Venables would even take time to prepare for him like he did Fields?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32855 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Fields could not win with a talent advantage. how was he going to make the difference for us?


A better qb usually leads to better results. This is football 101.

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based upon what we know today...we would have been in the same position today if Fromm or Fields were our QB.


Or maybe we beat Whoever we faced in the playoffs
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:34 pm to
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how was he going to make the difference for us?

IDK. It's hard to know what our offense would have looked like, what situations would have played out, etc.

That is an impossible question to answer.
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We have heard as nauseum from some that Kirby screwed up and we should have kept Fields.

He screwed up by overseeing an offense designed the way it currently is.
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based upon what we know today...we would have been in the same position today if Fromm or Fields were our QB.


maybe
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The OP said Fields clearly can not win the big game. can anybody argue against that?

He didn't yesterday. That doesn't mean he can't. Same as Fromm.
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Personally, I like to concentrate on what we have instead of pining away on what left.

What I'm talking about is what UGA can have offensively. What UGA currently has is an offense that I don't believe to be likely to result in winning big.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58913 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:36 pm to
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Do you really think Fromm could score on Clemson's defense?


Sure. he scored on Alabama's defens in 2017 when their defense was better than Clemson's this year. But he had Godwin, Hardmand, Ridley, and Holloman (in 2018) more experienced WRs. Pickens and Blaylock are going to be fine when they get the experience they need and have time to get synched up with their QB.

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Do you think Venables would even take time to prepare for him like he did Fields?


Yeah, I do.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7003 posts
Posted on 12/29/19 at 2:45 pm to
Murray had real struggles his first two years. In HS, Aaron was a roll out passer but Richt placed a big emphasis on throwing from the pocket. Murray lacked height so he had a lot of batted balls and interceptions. The Oline wasn't the best at protection which didn't help.
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