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re: Eason could be back practicing today

Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:12 pm to
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So, if Fromm keeps improving, why bench him?


Because Eason is the starter. He has a full year experience and by all accounts made improvement that you look for, it's said time and time again a QB's biggest improvement is from freshman to sophomore year. And his 1.5 possessions he's had this year don't really mean anything. The coaches went through a full offseason with both QBs and determined Eason was better for us to win football games, so I don't see how you let him ride the bench simply because he got hurt.

Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:18 pm to
I agree with the experience factor, but there's also something to be said about guys who step up during games while under pressure. There are workout warriors and there are gamers. It's possible that Fromm's game play has pushed up his stock higher than it was going into game #1 when Eason was the better QB. For all we know, they could be tied or Fromm could be the better choice now with 3 games under his belt. Who knows?

That said, the coaches should play whoever they feel will give us the best shot at victory. That's how it should always be. No seniority. No "but he earned it in practice". Just whoever gives us the best chance for success. The good news is that both are good enough to start for us, so if one isn't getting it done, swap them out and see if that shakes things up for the better.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:18 pm to
If they put Eason in and we lose the fanbase will go insane. I do think he should get a shot when he's healthy so we know what we have but my above statement is an absolute fact after the way Fromm has played
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Its been discussed on here before that Eason's work ethic isn't what Fromm's is.


Unless the person that said that is on the team or on staff, they wouldn't know. People say and discuss stuff on a message board that they don't have a clue about.

I am not sold on Eason or Fromm, for that matter. They both have a long way to go, but I am willing to wait and see. Stop and think about it. How would somebody on this message board know what Eason's work ethic is?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:30 pm to
It isn't unreasonable to believe somebody on here has inside knowledge of the program.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:30 pm to
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If they put Eason in and we lose the fanbase will go insane. I do think he should get a shot when he's healthy so we know what we have but my above statement is an absolute fact after the way Fromm has played




Even if he practices this week, Eason won't play, unless he has to. He might not play for a couple of weeks. Being able to practice and being ready to play in a game are two different things.

That said...what happens if Eason is ready, and Kirby plays Fromm and he throws three interceptions and we get beat? It goes both ways, which is why he will play Fromm this week. Eason probably isn't game ready right now anyway.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:32 pm to
If Fromm loses it won't be as bad as it will be if we pull a 3-0 qb who won his first start at notre dame for Eason who loses. I'm speaking about the masses not my personal views
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:32 pm to
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It isn't unreasonable to believe somebody on here has inside knowledge of the program.



No, it isn't. But they would have to be inside the weight room, inside meetings or it is just heresay. The chances of somebody on this board having intimate knowledge of work ethic is slim to none....unless they are a player, trainer or a coach. Other than that, they are repeating something they heard.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:34 pm to
Yeah but if they have inside knowledge they are likely getting their information from someone that is in the weight room and meetings I would think.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:34 pm to
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If Fromm loses it won't be as bad as it will be if we pull a 3-0 qb who won his first start at notre dame for Eason who loses. I'm speaking about the masses not my personal views





No, no....your statement was correct. I was just pointing out that it goes both ways. I wasn't saying you were wrong, because you can almost hear all the gnashing of teeth if what you said happened!
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:37 pm to
I think when/if Eason goes back to being the starter it will be on a short leash.... and if Fromm starts this week and beats a good ranked State team he will win this team over and there's no way you can pull him then until he loses a game imo
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:37 pm to
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Yeah but if they have inside knowledge they are likely getting their information from someone that is in the weight room and meetings I would think.


And without personal knowledge, they would be repeating what they heard. Which can be colored by not liking one player, or liking the other player. I never take somebody elses opinion of somebody at face value. Too many personal likes and dislikes color peoples opinion.
Whenever I am faced to choose between what the coach says and somebody on a message board saying "I heard..." I always listen to the coach.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:41 pm to
I'm with ya. But we know certainly from many outlets Nauta has had poor work ethic and him and Eason are best buds if I'm not mistaken. It isn't something that is comepletely insane and impossible. These are kids and Eason who comes here heralded as the savior of the program 5 start top in the nation QB may think he doesn't have to work as hard as 4 star Fromm who we weren't even originally on. It really reminds me of Aaron Murray and Mettenburger if you recal Mett was supposed to be more talented but Murray outworked him....and mett sexually assaulted someone
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:42 pm to
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I think when/if Eason goes back to being the starter it will be on a short leash....


I tend to agree....if by short leash you mean 2-3 quarters or royally screwing up by throwing several INT's. But Eason has not done that so far, so there is no reason to believe he would do it, now. Just doing what he did last season would not get him benched, probably. Although, over time (3-4 games) if he shows no improvement over last season, yes....I could see him losing his job.
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
729 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:46 pm to
Eason already proved that the first quarter against Appy State, although it was only one qtr. Kirby is going to have a problem on his hands...unless...Fromm starts playing all world QB.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:49 pm to
Ultimately I believe Fromm will be our QB and Eason transfers out when all is said and done
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:50 pm to
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But we know certainly from many outlets Nauta has had poor work ethic


Maybe. I mean, we heard an announcer say it, and a couple of people on here say it. Where they got their information from....? And I am not going to paint a players work ethic along with somebody elses, just because they are friends. Before last season all I heard was that Eason and Nauta worked over time together on timing, routes, etc.

Don't misunderstand me.....I think right now, Eason is, in some ways, a more polished player than Eason. Fans tend to go with the hot prospect or new prospect every year.

Just look at the recruiting thread. When Eason visited
Florida people were falling apart. Now they are ready to bench him. If we get Fields they will be ready for Fields to start and bench Fromm. (Or Eason)
Last year we had to have D'Andre Swift. This year everybody is excited over Zamir White. Next year everybody will be excited about whatever big back we go after.

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It really reminds me of Aaron Murray and Mettenburger if you recal Mett was supposed to be more talented but Murray outworked him....and mett sexually assaulted someone


I THINK (Somebody with a better memory than me can correct me if I am wrong) Mettenberger was supposed to be the starter until he couldn't keep his hands to himself.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:53 pm to
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Ultimately I believe Fromm will be our QB and Eason transfers out when all is said and done


If Fromm becomes the starter and we sign Fields it would not surprise me at all to see Eason leave. If we don't sign Fields he might stick around and try to win his job back. Either way, we need another QB bad.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 2:59 pm to
Eason was very vocal about wanting to go to NFL, pro style offense, yada yada. I'm pretty sure he's the reason we have Cheney. He won't be a back up
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 9/18/17 at 3:00 pm to
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I THINK (Somebody with a better memory than me can correct me if I am wrong) Mettenberger was supposed to be the starter until he couldn't keep his hands to himself.


I hate to bust your bubble. Murray was the higher touted recruit. Murray was further along and more polished (nobody remembers that Mett got zero reps with the #1 offense in most of the scrimmages).
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