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re: Defensive mvp so far?

Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:45 am to
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1303 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:45 am to
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Jordan Davis


I do want to give him a shout out though. He is a great guy all around. My kid is a RedCoat Trumpet and JD is constantly showing the band a lot of love. The RCs love him and he's made it a point to come into the stands with them. Really appreciate the support he sends the band's way. DGD!
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25627 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:04 am to
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I do want to give him a shout out though. He is a great guy all around. My kid is a RedCoat Trumpet and JD is constantly showing the band a lot of love. The RCs love him and he's made it a point to come into the stands with them. Really appreciate the support he sends the band's way. DGD!


He's been my favorite player on the team pretty much since LSU 2018.

And his personality shows on the televised games. He encourages the kicker and backups, etc... he definitely comes off as the big teddy bear who wants to do right for all of Dawgnation.

I think we have good guys on the DL behind him. But he is like Roquan Smith with our defensive planning. We can scheme an entire game based upon what he can do. We might be fine in 2021 without him, but everyone is going to be asked to play differently in terms of scheme and responsibilities.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 10:05 am
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6160 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:12 am to
Monty Rice.
Kid is all over the field.
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11351 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:20 am to
Monty Rice is the leader of the defense. Others may be more talented, but he's the bedrock of the group.
Posted by BoozeDawg
ATLANNUH
Member since Sep 2018
1465 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:26 am to
shite...everyone hahah

Dan Lanning has been dialing it up so far
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:10 pm to
I've thought really highly of Monty Rice since we signed him, and I think he's the Defensive MVP this year on an absolutely incredible, best in my lifetime UGA D. BUT...Nakobe Dean will be the single best LB in UGA history next year. Better than Roquan who is my favorite UGA player of all time. He is SO SO SO GOOD.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25627 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 1:58 pm to
Rice definitely has cleaned up more plays.

But I've had more wow moments from Dean either in coverage, attacking the QB, or going sideline to sideline.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 2:43 pm to
Roquan played at such a high level in 2017 that it’s hard to predict that for Dean, but Dean is better than Roquan ever was as a freshman or sophomore so it’s definitely not impossible.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 6:47 pm to
Richard LilEasy Lecounte. He’s the heart and soul of the defense.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27300 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:27 pm to
Jake Camarda.Leads the country in
net punting with 47.73 avg

Almost a 2 yard lead over #2.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 10:54 am to
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I've had more wow moments from Dean


Sometimes you just see someone who is on a different level. Felt like that watching Gurley run in college. When he was healthy, he was playing a different game than everyone else on the field. Dean is that caliber player.
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2975 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:09 pm to
Eric Stokes is so damn good. He just quietly goes about dominating guys. The broadcasts have talked about Campbell a lot but he's gotten taken advantage of a few times.

Lecounte has been good too. Cine has the chance to be even better I think.

Monty Rice is always in the right spot and as others have said, Dean has Roquan potential. Tindall and Q Walker have also been quite good.

Ojulari has taken himself to a potential top 60 draft pick. Adam Anderson is almost unstoppable on passing downs. Nolan smith has been disappointing IMO.

Jordan Davis is immovable. Wyatt has been really solid. I think Travon walker and herring have been underwhelming so far. I thought walker was gonna become a star this year.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25627 posts
Posted on 10/15/20 at 2:21 pm to
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Eric Stokes is so damn good. He just quietly goes about dominating guys.


Stokes will allow guys to get by him (by being aggressive at the line or on underneath cuts). But stokes has the speed to recover. I've seen 2 times where receivers had him by a step but the QB couldnt find the WR. Being aggressive is what makes stokes great.
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Nolan smith has been disappointing IMO.



I wouldn't say that Nolan has been disappointing. I have seen about 4 plays where he sucked in on the line and had no chance to seal the edge. And being disciplined to his edge was something that I bragged about to Tennessee and Auburn fans (he has made a liar out of me). But he was dominant against Arkansas holding the edge. He is a big, strong, smart kid who is getting better.

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Jordan Davis is immovable

Bama fans dont even know.
LSU fans are in denial (their only run game for 3 quarters was Burrow... and Bama doesnt have a Burrow).
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I think Travon walker and herring have been underwhelming so far. I thought walker was gonna become a star this year


I disagree. Herring and Walker reset the offensive line. Davis isnt plugging 6 gaps on his own. Herring and Walker are creating pass rush as well. They are a handfull and that opens up the interior for ILBs and exterior for safeties and CBs.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 9:40 am to
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But I've had more wow moments from Dean either in coverage, attacking the QB, or going sideline to sideline.


It seems like he is always where the ball is. Sometimes it looks like the opposing QB has an an all-day pocket, then Dean or Herring are all over him.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 10:02 am to
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But stokes has the speed to recover.
Waddle and Smith are pretty fast dudes. If Stokes let's either get a little separation, he's probably not making it up.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25627 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:28 am to
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But stokes has the speed to recover.
Waddle and Smith are pretty fast dudes. If Stokes let's either get a little separation, he's probably not making it up.


Agreed. Brooks Austin has a film study on Bamas offense that is worth checking out.

He shows the good and bad on Mac and his fundamentals. Deep balls with pressure are often short/underthrown. But the stud receivers adjust to them.

I dont see stokes/campbell catching up if a step behind waddle/smith. But if we pressure, they have as good a chance as the receiver to make the play.

The other variable (that we rarely know) is if they are expecting over the top help (lecounte/cine) and if that is why they play aggressive technique underneath.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 1:40 pm to
Mac Jones actuality looks like what Fromm probably would've looked like in that system. At least to me.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25627 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 2:07 pm to
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Mac Jones actuality looks like what Fromm probably would've looked like in that system. At least to me.


Maybe. From the film study, Jones looks more accurate at all distances.

But the consensus from Bama fans is that Jones knows presnap where to go better than Tua (who does that sound like) and gets through his progressions efficiently to find the open target. Tua would check 1, check 2 and then try to force some sort of play where Jones gets to the open guy quicker and delivers on target.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13165 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 5:37 pm to
Yep, processing information quickly aka surveying the field is a significant aspect of the QB position. Talent is important but you have to get into a play they works against how the defense is aligned and then you have to either pick out an open receiver or run as necessary. The best athletic QB's can run/rollout and still look for open receivers when the defense comes up to stop the run. This is why I am always in favor of finding the most athletic QB we can get.
Posted by TheJimBrown7
Member since Mar 2017
663 posts
Posted on 10/17/20 at 1:07 pm to
Hate to play a cop out card but the overall defense in general is so damn impressive. We have playmakers all over field. Our 2017 D was great and I think probably the only player I’d take from that D over the 2020 one is Roquan. We’ve got something truly special on that side of the ball and I really hope we can turn it into a championship season.
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