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re: Clarke county 71.1% voting warnock at the moment
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:08 am to BeefDawg
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:08 am to BeefDawg
This is damn comical because you are making assumptions. Kemp and Walker are two different people. The actual numbers aren’t what your assumption is….period. While I wish Walker would have won outright it didn’t happen and as usual the Democrats did a awesome job of smearing him and in a lot of cases they used his words against him.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:12 am to meansonny
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Liberal professors and college kids.
+AAs. Surprised it's not higher. Those 3 demographics account for 90% of the populace of Clarke County.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:14 am to BeefDawg
If I still voted, there is no fricking way that I could push that button for Walker. I, at least, would need the facade that he is capable of original thought, and would be something other than a sock puppet with someone else's hand controlling his words and actions as a Senator.
That said, Warnock would be a hard "no" for me as well as I know what he believes, and know that he acts accordingly.
If the Republicans lose this seat, blame them. Herschel was, and is, my idol on the football field. No one stands above him.
But, as a candidate? Are you fricking kidding me? This is what is wrong with party politics.
That said, Warnock would be a hard "no" for me as well as I know what he believes, and know that he acts accordingly.
If the Republicans lose this seat, blame them. Herschel was, and is, my idol on the football field. No one stands above him.
But, as a candidate? Are you fricking kidding me? This is what is wrong with party politics.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:15 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:20 am to Cheer
The difference with a small but important 50k voters going to the 3rd party candidate on the Walker ticket is very plausible. He has no real experience and there was a huge smear campaign against him. Though that can be explained as politics, my take away is that, if Walker was running as a Democrat, that same smear campaign would be proof of the deep seeded racism in the Ga Republican party.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:21 am to AmsterdamNYCDawg
quote:”Values” is certainly a valid reason to not vote for someone.
I don't know. Walker was hit on "values" so perhaps they didn't see him being good for the black vote.
But that still doesn’t explain the variances here. If values is why you didn’t vote for Walker, then it makes no sense that you would vote for both Kemp and Warnock, who have categorically opposing values.
The pro-choice person who voted against Walker isn’t going to vote for Kemp.
But, if you look at the numbers, there’s upwards of ~200k people who supposedly voted for Kemp AND Warnock (along with another ~50k who voted for the Libertarian and Kemp or Warnock), or over ~550k people who submitted partial ballots, only voting for Governor but not Senate or Senate but not Governor (which would be a ridiculously high number way beyond historical norms).
I mean anyone who doesn’t grasp that serious frickery is afoot has their head in the sand… or is a Dem being intellectually dishonest.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:22 am to BeefDawg
I know plenty of democrats who voted for Kemp.
You are only seeing 1/2 of the coin.
Do you think the Georgia DNC is as pissed as you for the Dems that respect what Kemp did despite Stacey barking at his every move the past 4 years?
You are only seeing 1/2 of the coin.
Do you think the Georgia DNC is as pissed as you for the Dems that respect what Kemp did despite Stacey barking at his every move the past 4 years?
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:22 am to Cheer
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If I still voted, there is no fricking way that I could push that button for Walker. I, at least, would need the facade that he is capable of original thought, and would be something other than a sock puppet with someone else's hand controlling his words and actions as a Senator.
That said, Warnock would be a hard "no" for me as well as I know what he believes, and know that he acts accordingly.
If the Republicans lose this seat, blame them.
democrats don't think that way though and give thought to each candidate and weigh their pros and cons and vote accordingly. They see [D] and they vote for the candidate. Sometimes on their own, sometimes because someone has knocked on their door and filled out their ballot alrady for htem ahead of time. Sometimes without them even knowing. The point is, you not casting a vote on principal is the exact same as handing warnock the election.
You can't blame the republican party for losing the seat if you allow the democrats to cruise to victory. And yes, I'm fully aware how hypocritical this post is by advocating for doing the exactd same thing I accuse the other side of doing. I'm just saying that you can't say "I think [candidate from one side] is so awful and terrible he's just the worst and it would suck if he won" yet not vote for his opponent.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:39 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:36 am to Cheer
quote:I get that, and a lot of people felt this way.
If I still voted, there is no fricking way that I could push that button for Walker. I, at least, would need the facade that he is capable of original thought, and would be something other than a sock puppet with someone else's hand controlling his words and actions as a Senator. That said, Warnock would be a hard "no" for me as well as I know what he believes, and know that he acts accordingly. If the Republicans lose this seat, blame them. Herschel was, and is, my idol on the football field. No one stands above him. But, as a candidate? Are you fricking kidding me? This is what is wrong with party politics.
But it wasn’t 560,000 out of ~2 million (remember, there’s already almost 2 million who also wouldn’t/didn’t vote for Walker), and there weren’t a couple hundred thousand who voted for Kemp and Warnock on the same ballot.
I’m sure there’s people here balking at me who still think Dominion voting machines aren’t rigged, 2020 was a legit election, Covid wasn’t a bio-weapon our government exploited, the elite of our world aren’t pushing a globalist collectivist agenda, and our politicians and elites aren’t corrupt, are looking out for our best interests, and running free, fair, and honest elections is part of their agenda.
No way these people would cheat, right?
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:41 am to WG_Dawg
BeefDawg
Keep talking about election fraud and that's why you will continue to lose. Kemp was an excellent governor in his first term. I could see a lot of democrats pulling the lever for him because he gave Georgia freedom from the Covid BS. Why do you think there are so many states that have republican governors, then vote democrat for everything else. Hell, it wasn't too long ago, Georgia always had a democrat as governor and voted for R's in the Senate and House.
Keep talking about election fraud and that's why you will continue to lose. Kemp was an excellent governor in his first term. I could see a lot of democrats pulling the lever for him because he gave Georgia freedom from the Covid BS. Why do you think there are so many states that have republican governors, then vote democrat for everything else. Hell, it wasn't too long ago, Georgia always had a democrat as governor and voted for R's in the Senate and House.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:47 am to RocketDawg
quote:I gave all the possible options available after extracting the numbers. Not assumptions, options.
This is damn comical because you are making assumptions.
Either:
1. Tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands, voted for both Kemp and Warnock on the same ballot.
2. An outrageously unrealistic number of people voted for Governor but not Senate, or Senate but not Governor.
That’s it. And neither of those things is remotely plausible.
A tiny fraction of both, sure. But double-digit percentages out of 4 million votes didn’t happen. And if you think it did, you don’t know WTF you’re talking about.
This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:53 am to Peter Buck
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if Walker was running as a Democrat, that same smear campaign would be proof of the deep seeded racism in the Ga Republican party.
I do not disagree...funny how it all works so well.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 9:58 am to AirbusDawg
quote:I can’t help you if you’re one of the folks who believes our elites aren’t corrupt, have only our best interests at heart, and wouldn’t do everything in their power to secure their agendas.
Keep talking about election fraud and that's why you will continue to lose. Kemp was an excellent governor in his first term. I could see a lot of democrats pulling the lever for him because he gave Georgia freedom from the Covid BS. Why do you think there are so many states that have republican governors, then vote democrat for everything else. Hell, it wasn't too long ago, Georgia always had a democrat as governor and voted for R's in the Senate and House.
They shut our country down, forced tens of thousands of businesses to close, leave millions of homeless, hungry, poor, mentally ill, and veterans downtrodden only to send trillions to other countries. They enter politics with little wealth and amass fortunes in no time while on meager salaries. They vote themselves allowed to insider trade. And this list could go on and on and on.
But, a bunch of you get bent when your political rival mentions “fraud” in elections.
LOL, we’re so doomed. And it ain’t me, buddy.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:01 am to BeefDawg
You lose a lot of people when you use terms like “elites” fyi
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:01 am to BeefDawg
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2. An outrageously unrealistic number of people voted for Governor but not Senate, or Senate but not Governor.
That’s it. And neither of those things is remotely plausible.
I self admit I dont know shite about this but... I think a lot of people are voting against someone compared to voting for someone. One of the saddest days of my life was when I was in high school and a friend told me Herschel was going to the USFL and skipping his senior season. I just love the guy but I voted for him because I think on the floor of congress, he would vote closely to how I would. I know Warnock rarely would vote that way. If you don't think the mudslinging campaign had people voting for Kemp and Warnock I would disagree. Add in Herschel is not going to debate well, his goofy arse kid being an arse on twitter. I hate saying, but Herschel is not a great Senate candidate. All he has going for him is his celebrity status.
Sam Nunn was extremely popular I bet there were some huge splits back then but for a different reason.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:05 am to Peter Buck
quote:Its just short for a slew of labels that use money, power, and cronyism to elicit influence so they can gain more money, power, and influence.
You lose a lot of people when you use terms like “elites” fyi
George Carlin called them a “Club”. And everyone should know what it means.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:11 am to AllDawg
Herschel might be one of the worst candidates in political history. Almost as bad as the brain damaged slob in the hoodie up in Pennsylvania or wherever. Any other candidate besides Herschel would have mopped the floor with Warnock even with the usual cheating by the commie filth on the left
Trump screwed us on this. And I knew it would happen on Day 1. This is all on Trump. Ironically though, Trump actually helped us dodge the Stacey Abrams bullet. Trumps hatred for Kemp actually helped Kemp pull off the impressive win. There’s no doubt about it. If Trump had endorsed Kemp, it would have given the dems all the leverage they needed to drive away a lot of the people that thankfully voted for Kemp. Just like how being a Trump candidate automatically kept several demographics from ever considering to vote for Herschel
We’re fricked big time now. If republicans can’t take the house and senate back from this, the most comically incompetent political party ever to exist in world history, then they are useless retarded boobs, and only slightly less vile than their counterparts
frick Trump. frick all of them. We’re doomed.
Trump screwed us on this. And I knew it would happen on Day 1. This is all on Trump. Ironically though, Trump actually helped us dodge the Stacey Abrams bullet. Trumps hatred for Kemp actually helped Kemp pull off the impressive win. There’s no doubt about it. If Trump had endorsed Kemp, it would have given the dems all the leverage they needed to drive away a lot of the people that thankfully voted for Kemp. Just like how being a Trump candidate automatically kept several demographics from ever considering to vote for Herschel
We’re fricked big time now. If republicans can’t take the house and senate back from this, the most comically incompetent political party ever to exist in world history, then they are useless retarded boobs, and only slightly less vile than their counterparts
frick Trump. frick all of them. We’re doomed.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:14 am to BeefDawg
So your position is that so many people didn’t vote straight R/D down the ticket, so fraud must have occurred?
I’m also in this camp of split ticket. I don’t love Warnock, and definitely don’t agree with him on everything, but I dislike him as a candidate much less than I do Walker.
I think you’re seriously underestimating the population that thinks this way (and poll numbers would agree).
I’m also in this camp of split ticket. I don’t love Warnock, and definitely don’t agree with him on everything, but I dislike him as a candidate much less than I do Walker.
I think you’re seriously underestimating the population that thinks this way (and poll numbers would agree).
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:19 am to WG_Dawg
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democrats don't think that way though and give thought to each candidate and weigh their pros and cons and vote accordingly. They see [D] and they vote for the candidate. Sometimes on their own, sometimes because someone has knocked on their door and filled out their ballot alrady for htem ahead of time. Sometimes without them even knowing. The point is, you not casting a vote on principal is the exact same as handing warnock the election.
I like how everything is so black and white in politics. It's hilarious if you think this only happens with democrats. This happens with republicans as well.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:29 am to Jefferson Dawg
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Any other candidate besides Herschel would have mopped the floor with Warnock even with the usual cheating by the commie filth on the left
This.
People wanted to vote against Warnock. Then, they saw the opposition. It was a terrible thing for them to run Walker, politically. Personally, my childhood idol has been trashed, and a universally loved man instantly became a pariah to half the population of a state that had deified him.
Posted on 11/9/22 at 10:30 am to Sir Thomas Bombadil
I don't want to say that the senate seat is irrelevant. But it is pretty irrelevant.
No one is sweeping change through congress without 60 senators voting.
There are committee benefits to having the senate. But that is minor.
The house is more important right now.
We will have to wait to hear how all of the districts shake out. Removing Pelosi, setting the agenda, and the ability to block Biden at every step is on that side of congress (inflation bill, build back better, etc..)
No one is sweeping change through congress without 60 senators voting.
There are committee benefits to having the senate. But that is minor.
The house is more important right now.
We will have to wait to hear how all of the districts shake out. Removing Pelosi, setting the agenda, and the ability to block Biden at every step is on that side of congress (inflation bill, build back better, etc..)
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